Why not take steroids at 20-21??

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I'm sorry for your losses, I just don't know what to do now. I've hit that point in life where I can't figure out why I'm on this earth. What's my fate? Who am I? I want to be successful but idk how. Idk how to better my life, idk how to get out of this area. Idk what I want to do with my life. Like how do you become successful when you don't even know how to get started..the only thing that makes me happy is being in the gym letting everything go and forgetting about everything for that 60-90 minutes


I just don't know anymore, idk what to do

Dude at your age it's par for the course. Your not supposed to know what you want. It's the adult clash. You haven 't lived enough to make an intelligent choice. The 27 -30 guy with money and a business get the girls and the car and the house. No biggie. The fact that you don't know shows promise. I would recommend seeing the world I'd save money and then go to fiji or Bali or some other exotic place. You can live like a king for $5 a day in Morocco or Costa rico there are so many place that are tropical paradise's that are inexpensive to live. College and work will wait. Work to live not live to work.

In our society we often make the mistake of focusing on a long term goal in hopes that it will make us happy instead of just focusing on being happy.

Bodybuilding is at the highest levels is a very poor life. It's wake up eat train eat sleep. wake up eat sleep. Very little else but eating and sleeping.

 

[meyers462]

There's plenty of careers out there man... I'm your age too and make great money as an insurance agent... And don't say college is stupid... Your friends just have stupid majors... There's plenty of government aids out there for college... Go to college get a degree in a useful field

Thanks I know there's something but I haven't found it, also idk how to get then government aids and stuff nobody ever showed me not even in school so I have no idea. Also I been out of school since 2013

Where do you shop? Sam's Club sells chicken for under $2 a pound - I bought some on one of their sales at $1.88 a pound. This is good because I am eating almost 2 pounds of it a day. But that would only make $4 worth a chicken a day. Chicken is amazing in that it is high protein, low fat (skinless, boneless), freezes well, and tastes great! Buy in bulk and cut it down to size yourself.

I wish there wa a SAMs club close, the closest super store is walmart an that's 10 miles away :/

Take it easy young man .. Everything will be ok.. Hold on ..
Everyone has a shitty stage in his life.. It will pass..

Thanks I know, I just hate this feeling cause idk what to do, it's depressing cause I have no one to got to for help and guidance..

I thank all of you for trying to help me; it means alot

 

[Southernfish]

Dude at your age it's par for the course. Your not supposed to know you what you want. You haven 't lived enough to make an intelligent choice. The fact that you don't know shows promise. I would recommend seeing the world I'd save money and then go to fiji or Bali or some other exotic place. You can live like a king for $5 a day in Morocco or Costa rico there are so many place that are tropical paradise's that are inexpensive to live. College and work will wait. Work to live not live to work.

In our society we often make the mistake of focusing on a long term goal in hopes that it will make us happy instead of just focusing on being happy.

Bodybuilding is at the highest levels is a very pro life. It's wake up eat train eat sleep. wake up eat sleep. Very little else but eating and sleeping.

Good call, although its good to focus on the future for some things we cant become consumed by living our lives this way because we will miss out on things that come our way in the process of trying to achieve that goal.

 

[Southernfish]

Thanks I know there's something but I haven't found it, also idk how to get then government aids and stuff nobody ever showed me not even in school so I have no idea. Also I been out of school since 2013

I wish there wa a SAMs club close, the closest super store is walmart an that's 10 miles away :/

Thanks I know, I just hate this feeling cause idk what to do, it's depressing cause I have no one to got to for help and guidance..

I thank all of you for trying to help me; it means alot

Every single person in this world has felt down in the dumps or depressed at one time or another. Not having anyone there isn't that big of a deal because the only person that can help you and get you out of this mental state your in is YOU.

I always say look out for #1 because no one else is, its a hard world and a greedy world.

Im not saying to mow over and fuck people over to get what you want but don't rely on anyone to make thing better for you because they wont.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Well I will say this. If you can change a car tire you can get you Network engineer certification ( MCSC ) or Cisco cert and a job starting at $50k -$70k a year. Go to one of the trade schools like ITT. They will help you get the government loans and grants to go to school. Or go to a junior college the finical aid office will help you get money. It's what they do.
Just understand Network admins don't have fun jobs it really bs and boring for the most part but they get paid really well and work in air-conditioned offices and get a new crop of young secretaries to flirt with every 6 months.

Keep in mind work to live not live to work.

 

[3J]

this is america!!!! I WENT FROM BEING ON WELFARE WELL INTO MY TEENAGE YEARS, TO WORKING 12 DOLLARS AN HOUR AS A MEDIC, TO OWNING TWO BUSINESSES..


the only excuse you have is the ones you make yourself that come out of your ass.. this is a capitalistic country.. and only the ones who take charge of their destiny by getting educated, moving up the ladder, and taking risks make it!!!


NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE IN, NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS THAN WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY!!

 

[ImAuNatural]

Every single person in this world has felt down in the dumps or depressed at one time or another. Not having anyone there isn't that big of a deal because the only person that can help you and get you out of this mental state your in is YOU.

I always say look out for #1 because no one else is, its a hard world and a greedy world.

Im not saying to mow over and fuck people over to get what you want but don't rely on anyone to make thing better for you because they wont.

I completely agree with Scredder on this.

 

[ImAuNatural]

10 famous people who succeeded later in life

1)Sylvester Stallone : Sylvester Stallone was so broke that he had to sell his wife's jewelry then his dog to pay his bills. He only became successful when the script for the movie Rocky was accepted (he was 30 at that time)

2)Harrison Ford: He was a struggling actor and had to work as a carpenter to pay his bills. He never saw real success before he was 35

3)J. K. Rowling (harry potter writer): she struggled for years and her scripts got rejected until she managed to sell the first one in her mid thirties then she became a billionaire few years later!

4) Steve jobs: Even though Steve's company became successful at a young age he was kicked out of it when he was at his early thirties and he had to start over. He managed to become successful once again at his mid thirties.

5) Larry Ellison (oracle): Larry had to work for a software company until he was about 34. It was then when he decided that he should start his own business and within years he became a famous billionaire.

6) mark Pincus (zynga): After moving from one failure to another Mark discovered that his passion was for gaming and he started his company Zynga at a late age only to become a billionaire at his forties.

7) Jack Dorsey (Twitter): After moving from one job to another Jack found his passion in social networking. He started twitter then became successful at his mid thirties

8) Susan Boyle: After struggling with financial difficulties, partial mental handicap and death of her mother she became a famous singer at the age of 47!

9)Abraham Lincoln: Most probably he was the most defeated man in the world. After losing so many times in different elections he succeeded in becoming the president of the united states at the age of 51)

10) Colonel Sanders(KFC): That's probably the best example you are going to see in your life about starting late. Colonel Sanders started his idea when he was 65 years old and in few years he had one of the largest restaurant chains in the world

 

[ADenver]

That's cause I can't afford to eat the way he wants me to. Chicken steak fish all that shit is expensive. $12 for 1 lbs of chicken on top of that I can't get a job anywhere else, there is nowhere else in town. My boss is a dick that only let's me eat one time from 3-11. Otherwise I could hit the road and have no money

You cant afford to eat, then you for sure cant afford to cycle. This is the end of your argument.

And your excuses about not having a car, or anyone to go to is worthless.

I moved across the country with no car, no job, NO ONE. Only to put myself in a better place to thrive.

You make time and energy for that which is important to you, you make excuses for everything else.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Don't listen to studies, often times they are a bunch of hog wash. Plus every human is different and will react different to different training methods. You've been doing push/pull..........is it working? No, so try something else.

yeah.. maybe google and research "DC training" the info is free , adjust it maybe, i make it more reps and hit each part one time a week. and you should be changing it up a bit every couple weeks regardless of the style you do IMO

 

[Harnold]

I'm went from 120lbs to 185 lbs in 1.5years, recently cut down to 160 lbs 10%bf looking flat and small but lean. I have also seen bodybuilders naturals who are 180-190 lbs lean on competition and they still don't look that big an they still flat. Where as people who use aas look a lot bigger and they could be weighing less then the natty at 180 lbs. so my question is why not start taking them and get that head start on all the other competitors? Natty it take you like 8-10 years to get 200lbs 5% where as if you use gear it's more like 2 years. I myself have ran 2 cycles of prohormones. And have kept everything.

brother male metabolism doesn't even slow down for most until 20-21 years old. at that point is where you can make the sizeable gains with proper diet and training. you don't need gear yet or maybe ever, who knows.

 

[Lunaticfringe]

all wheel of pain references get a thumbs up from me

LMAO...this times 10...

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Finical aid will help you, it paid for my school. Seems to me honestly right now atm you shouldn't be worried about your cycle and about your future. Get a degree in mechanical engineering. Are you good at math...idk. But you won't know until YOU try as hard as you claim you do with lifting. Take loans out and make something out of yourself instead of hoping for an opportunity to come by you. Go after and it as if your life depends on it... you are in charge of your life now. Not your parents.

 

[meyers462]

this is america!!!! I WENT FROM BEING ON WELFARE WELL INTO MY TEENAGE YEARS, TO WORKING 12 DOLLARS AN HOUR AS A MEDIC, TO OWNING TWO BUSINESSES..


the only excuse you have is the ones you make yourself that come out of your ass.. this is a capitalistic country.. and only the ones who take charge of their destiny by getting educated, moving up the ladder, and taking risks make it!!!


NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE IN, NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS THAN WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY!!

You see idk what makes me happy the only thing I know that I like doing is bodybuilding and reading about bodybuilding. There is nothing in this area so I haven't experienced anything really.

10 famous people who succeeded later in life

1)Sylvester Stallone : Sylvester Stallone was so broke that he had to sell his wife's jewelry then his dog to pay his bills. He only became successful when the script for the movie Rocky was accepted (he was 30 at that time)

2)Harrison Ford: He was a struggling actor and had to work as a carpenter to pay his bills. He never saw real success before he was 35

3)J. K. Rowling (harry potter writer): she struggled for years and her scripts got rejected until she managed to sell the first one in her mid thirties then she became a billionaire few years later!

4) Steve jobs: Even though Steve's company became successful at a young age he was kicked out of it when he was at his early thirties and he had to start over. He managed to become successful once again at his mid thirties.

5) Larry Ellison (oracle): Larry had to work for a software company until he was about 34. It was then when he decided that he should start his own business and within years he became a famous billionaire.

6) mark Pincus (zynga): After moving from one failure to another Mark discovered that his passion was for gaming and he started his company Zynga at a late age only to become a billionaire at his forties.

7) Jack Dorsey (Twitter): After moving from one job to another Jack found his passion in social networking. He started twitter then became successful at his mid thirties

8) Susan Boyle: After struggling with financial difficulties, partial mental handicap and death of her mother she became a famous singer at the age of 47!

9)Abraham Lincoln: Most probably he was the most defeated man in the world. After losing so many times in different elections he succeeded in becoming the president of the united states at the age of 51)

10) Colonel Sanders(KFC): That's probably the best example you are going to see in your life about starting late. Colonel Sanders started his idea when he was 65 years old and in few years he had one of the largest restaurant chains in the world

Yeah I know they came from nothing, but they all knew what they wanted to do and what they love. The only thing I know that I love right now is bodybuilding and you can't make a livig off that :/

Finical aid will help you, it paid for my school. Seems to me honestly right now atm you shouldn't be worried about your cycle and about your future. Get a degree in mechanical engineering. Are you good at math...idk. But you won't know until YOU try as hard as you claim you do with lifting. Take loans out and make something out of yourself instead of hoping for an opportunity to come by you. Go after and it as if your life depends on it... you are in charge of your life now. Not your parents.

I suck at math honestly lol. I didn't pay much attention in school growing up I played sports and our town is BIG on football, so regardless if I payed attention or not I passed because of football. Most of my teachers were my coaches too so that's that. The only class I excelled in was accounting, business management, and phys ed. I hated accounting and business management. They were just easy for me but very very boring and frustrating after doing it everyday
*for those who don't know accounting has nothing to do with math, it's all about credits, debits, assets, and liabilities*

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Go live life. That's what college is for figuring what you want to do

 

[meyers462]

Go live life. That's what college is for figuring what you want to do

I don't like to party anymore, it gets in the way with bodybuilding. I haven't drank a beer since my senior year in high school before I started lifting seriously. And I'm afraid to even try to go to college, what if I just end up wasting $80,000 cause idk what I want In life..then I stuck paying that loan which just went up to $100,000 cause interest rates. Also what if college gets in the waY of going to the gym and diet? Cause I would also have a job on top of going to college.

I'm sorry for all these questions I'm trying to figure out who I am and what my destiny is on this planet..

 

[Harnold]

No I eat donuts and my maxes are 255 bench, 315 squat

seriously bro, and I'm not trying to make fun of you, do you bench two plates and squat three?
I'll believe you, I just had to ask.

 

[meyers462]

seriously bro, and I'm not trying to make fun of you, do you bench two plates and squat three?
I'll believe you, I just had to ask.

They are my maxes yes, I have stopped doing flat bench and have been doing incline for my main movement, I feel it a lot better in my chest

 

[Southernfish]

Maybe at this point in your life bodybuilding is holding you back and taking up time that should be focused in other more important things. Its sounds like you arent happy with that either to be honest man.

 

[meyers462]

Maybe at this point in your life bodybuilding is holding you back and taking up time that should be focused in other more important things. Its sounds like you arent happy with that either to be honest man.

But that's the thing that's all I think about is the gym and getting a better physique. Yesterday when i was at work my co worker asked me "what's your hobbies what do you like to do" and all I could think of is go to the gym. I don't even care about sex anymore, what runs through my head everyday is getting bigger..and I don't want to stop building my physique so that's out of the question. There has to be a balance, I just don't like anything else or have any other interests. I was looking up majors in college and careers asscociated with them and I didn't like any of them. I talked to recruiters and I don't want to give up my freedom either and be stuck doing something I hate for 4 years.

When I use to go out with my friends I hated it cause it was boring to me and did not interest me what they did plus what they do cost money that could be spent on food. The last time I remembet having true fun was when I smoked pot but I quit that months ago so I can find a better job which is not working like I thought it would