Will I lose my gains leaning out after Dbol?????????????

[0nyx120]

Hey bros, I just bought some Dianabol (Methandostenolone), and this will be my first time taking it and my first oral AAS. I am using it as a kickstart for my bulking phase and this is what my cycle plan looks like.

Dbol 30mg ED (1-4)
Andropen 275 200mg EOD (1-14)
Tren Ace 200mg EOD (4-12)
Equipose 300mg MF (4-14)
Arimidex 0.5mg EOD

-5th cycle.

-Stats: 5'8, solid 191lbs, 12% BF.

PCT:
HCG 1,000iu ED (1-2)
Clomid 150mg ed (2-6)

Im taking Liv52, Milk thistle & Saw Palmetto, everyday for liver protection.

My plan is to bulk on the dbol for my first four weeks with a calorie surplus diet, and then lean out and define the mass with a calorie maintenance diet on the Tren and Equipoise. I understand I will lose mostly water weight, but will I still manage to keep the lean muscle tissue I've gained within those 4 weeks of bulking, or will I lose them all due to the fact that I wont be eating as much as I should? Keep in mind this is my first oral steroid and my first Bulking/Leaning out cycle. I would like to know what you bros think, and what you think is best. My goal is to be bigger, just not with such a puffy look. Thats why I want to lean out and get the muscles to LOOK and FEEL rock solid.

 

[tbonexl]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

Doesn't seem like u got an idea of how to cycle. Your pct is the worst I've seen posted atleast this week. Are u even running any test?

 

[Rida5d]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

Are u even running any test?

I guess andropen is a test blend .. But I'm not sure of the esters.. Something like sus I think

 

[tbonexl]

Well, bulking for the first 4 weeks then cutting the rest of the cycle isn't going to work. You either do a bulk cycle or a cut cycle. Even the pros do atleast a 16 week cut.

 

[wufo]

Yeahh

 

[0nyx120]

So you think I should just focus on bulking? Never ran dianabol, so I don't know what to expect.

 

[0nyx120]

I personally thought my PCT was pretty good. What do you recommend? And Andropen 275 is a testosterone blend. 20mgs of Testosterone Acetate, 75mgs of Testosterone Cypionate, 90mgs of Testosterone Decanoate, and 40mgs of Testosterone Prop & phenylpropionate.

 

[China_Wall]

Your dosages are way too high for the amount of knowledge you have regarding gear...

 

[3J]

compounds do not dictate what you will keep and what you will not. your diet will.. so long as your training is in check..

its all about the diet.. i cant repeat this enough.. if you dont eat to fuel the bulk you'll lose it all.. simple as that