Winstrol (oral)cycle, worth while?

kutt3r

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Have been lurking for a while on the boards and know that the general consensus is test for first cycle... I am not interested in injecting, nor getting too large, nor dealing with many side effects. I tried searching but have not had much luck, also checked the cycles forum to see if anyone had a log, but nothing I could see.

I have a friend that did an oral whinny cycle and he recommended it as a fairly simple yet useful cycle with limited side effects. (I have been reading tons about other combos and I just don't think its for me)

Also thinking of cycling with some clen to cut down some fat

Here are some stats that I think will get asked:
Age: 32
Ht:5' 9"
Wt: 190
BF: dunno for sure hand reader is 15% and scale is 20-22% depending on hydration
Goals: Strength/endurance (MMA goal weight is 170pds as friends are sure that at 155 I would lose too much muscle, I was down to 175, but have been eating like a horse and lifting heavy, waist size never changed during the weight gain so i figure it is quality and bf only went up 2-3% on both fat testers)

Eating 1.5-2gr protein/day, drinking lots of H20, reduced sugar, complex/fibrous carbs (mostly clean and getting better every week, been getting great tips and ideas from the site for meals and eating)

Taking the standard supplements of creatine/glutimine/multi/efa

Training: (my partners plan,looking to change this up a little after reading the site)
Mon - Legs
Tues - Chest/Bi
Wed - Rest
Thurs - Back
Fri - Shoulder/tri
Sat/Sun - Rest

Any thoughts/help is appreciated.

Thanks!
 
In my opinion you should drop some percentages in your BF, before going on that Winstrol (winny) only cycle.

Of course, you will probably get 90% of the replies that you should not do a winstrol only cycle, and just use test for your first cycle.

You say you don't want to put on alot of size, well, don't worry; the drugs won't that do that for you, that's something you decide when choosing how much and what you eat.

However, at a 15% BF I recommend dropping some before going on a stanozolol cycle, as you want that winstrol to harden/shredd you up.
 
If it's for MMA i'd go with Anavar. It has leaning effects similar to Winstrol (winny), however much greater strength increases than Winstrol (winny) for most as well. Winstrol (winny) is NOT known to be low on side effects, in fact quite the opposite.
 
Anadrol said:
In my opinion you should drop some percentages in your BF, before going on that Winstrol (winny) only cycle.

However, at a 15% BF I recommend dropping some before going on a stanozolol cycle, as you want that winstrol to harden/shredd you up.

That is why I was thinking of using clen as well, but maybe a couple of cycles with the clen to begin with? Honestly I am looking to stay around 10% bf, but you never know what might happen...

Thanks!
 
outlawtas2 said:
If it's for MMA i'd go with Anavar. It has leaning effects similar to Winstrol (winny), however much greater strength increases than Winstrol (winny) for most as well. Winstrol (winny) is NOT known to be low on side effects, in fact quite the opposite.


I was just going by the profiles and they seem very similar in side effects, the Anavar has a few more depending on does.

I guess what I meant by side effects is I know that it is liver toxic and would take some milk thistle with it, just to be safe... Is there more that I should be concerned about?

The main thing that I am trying to avoid is messin' with the boys as I want kids and am trying to avoid anything that messes with them.

Worst case scenario is that I add more cardio, watch the diet and stick with the hard work :crying:
 
I ran Winstrol (winny) @ 50mg for about a week alongside some test and still hated it. I felt like shit and broke out all over the place. The shit is toxic. I dropped it and just used the test and felt fine again. Like outlaw said, if you're hellbent on doing oral only you'd be better off using anavar. the side affects are far less than winstol. Oh, and, your nuts WILL shrink. Besides running HCG there's nothing you can do about that, and if you're gonna run HCG you may as well just do test cause you'll need to poke.

Sorry I know this isn't what you want to hear but it's fact....or at least my experience
 
No way does anavar have more side effects than Winstrol (winny). I can hardly imagine a human taking any dose of anavar that would produce the side effects that Winstrol (winny) does at any dose a human would take.

Side effects of steroids in general are overblown however I haven't used Winstrol (winny) for years and have no plans to do so in the future. It really screwed up my cholesterol and elevated my liver values more than anything else has. Moreover, it tends to make you much more prone to soft tissue injuries - which a fighter can't really afford.

Steroids do not make you sterile and may not even temporarily prevent you from being fertile. I got my fiance pregnant this summer, and I have been on test, deca, and other steroids for 4 years without a break.

The main side effect to guard against is the aromatization of steroids into estrogen, which can cause gynomastia (bitch tits) and other problems. You guard against that with drugs such as arimidex or aromasin (my favorites for this purpose).

I want to say that if you aren't interested in injecting, don't mess with steroids. It really is no big deal and all oral cycles aren't really worthwhile. What you want is a test only cycle or perhaps test/tren. Anavar is going to kill your endurance and that can't be good for a fighter.
 
Well if anything I am quickly learning that no one seems likes Winstrol (winny) at all, and there are alternatives.
Which is good to know....I am quickly begining to think that test is the way to go...time for some more reading.....

I do appreciate all the opinions and good feed back
 
i ordered some winstrol tablets and oral tren. i have liver protection and im still trying to decide how i should arrange my cycle. any recommendations please help
 
Winny blows imo...overrated..skews your lipid s all up and dried my joint s up..but then I m old.
Oral only cycle s are NOT GOOD.
Winstrol (winny), tren and no test equal s dead dick.
 
not my thread. the winstrol is 100 tabs 10 mg each geneza pharms. the tren is 100 tabs 250 mcg each.
 
alrite new approach. all i have is oral tren, oral Winstrol (winny), liv 52. i can buy joint pro n other legal shit but if i couldnt add any more roids...what would u recommend??
 
I took 50mgs whinny at the end of my test cycle, it def gave me a boast but my shoulders have been killing me for weeks now. I wanted to try it and now know for myself how it is. I will try Anavar (var) next time
 
whinny is definitely a not for every one. I didn't feel anything positive from the tabs, and the injectables...forget about it. Hurt like hell, and i felt like i had the flu or some shit. I couldn't stop shaking cuz i felt so cold.
 
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