Young and dumb, or could it work?
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SomeBloke
Midnight Rodeo
not to sound like a prick but READ THE BOARDS
i mean, come on, "all i want is to gain and keep 20 pounds and have no side effects"
mate why stop there why not ask for that hottie next door to sleepwalk into your bedroom and give you a bj
you sound like you dont know your stuff. you sound like the classic shortcutter- you probably want the dbol because you dont want to inject, you dont want a high dose because youre scared of the sides, you dont want to lose any of your gains...frankly you sound like you have no business touching steroids
on the bright side im glad you asked your question because it would have been a shame for you to jump into it, screw up your hormones and not even benefit.
you might have read the baords but please, read them again. more than one.
cheers
i mean, come on, "all i want is to gain and keep 20 pounds and have no side effects"
mate why stop there why not ask for that hottie next door to sleepwalk into your bedroom and give you a bj
you sound like you dont know your stuff. you sound like the classic shortcutter- you probably want the dbol because you dont want to inject, you dont want a high dose because youre scared of the sides, you dont want to lose any of your gains...frankly you sound like you have no business touching steroids
on the bright side im glad you asked your question because it would have been a shame for you to jump into it, screw up your hormones and not even benefit.
you might have read the baords but please, read them again. more than one.
cheers
I were just waiting for such a post to come up...
I know all the side effects. I've read numerous pages about the different steroids I can get, and found out that for my needs this would be the best. Dbol is highly rated for fast strenght and size, medium to high side effect risk, and hard to keep the gains. But all the places I've read. They are all talking about atleast 15 - 20 mg.
The idea I came up with, was that if I use like 5 - 10 mg each day or every second. I would cut down on the side effect risk, but still get a higher test level and gain more muscles. I've read that ung and not too big ppl can get good gains and keep it if they work and eat hard enough all the way.
I know all the side effects. I've read numerous pages about the different steroids I can get, and found out that for my needs this would be the best. Dbol is highly rated for fast strenght and size, medium to high side effect risk, and hard to keep the gains. But all the places I've read. They are all talking about atleast 15 - 20 mg.
The idea I came up with, was that if I use like 5 - 10 mg each day or every second. I would cut down on the side effect risk, but still get a higher test level and gain more muscles. I've read that ung and not too big ppl can get good gains and keep it if they work and eat hard enough all the way.
02gixxersix
New member
You say you have read around the boards but there is no way that is true with the proposal of this cycle. If you are going todoa cycle anyways I suggest you read around the boards for a while. A first cycle should always be some form of test, preferably enth or cyp at 400-500mg per week followed by PCT.
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
ConT said:
How about what point #1 says ??
.....and after reading that, please read the rest of this article, then let us know what you think.
What appears below was developed by a number of our good friends at www.anabolicfitness.com, the link is http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/age.htm.
Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.
Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:
1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (“growth plates”) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (“voicebox”) into the mid-20’s.
2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.
3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.
4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.
The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.
For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:
Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later
02gixxersix
New member
ConT said:
If your idea is still to take 1 dbol every other day then no your idea will not work. I'm not even sure I believe you;re serious anymore. A lot of very knowledgable people have told you it's pointless and you refuse to accept it.
MuffDyver
Not Juice..Protein Shakes
u got to listen to the other guys, one or two will not work. ill give u some personal experience. deca is pretty much a weaker steroid then dbol but i did a deca cycle of 1 cc a week for 10 weeks. i didnt gain shit!!!! with deca ur supose to do like 3 0r 4ccs a week (300-400ml). i listened to people who said to do like 2, 3 or 4 but i was to scared of the sides. i gained just like 8-10lbs and u couldnt really notice. it was probably water anyways. what im saying is that ur gonna waste ur damn money cause i no i did.
Ozzy27
Olympian Bodybuilder
If you were to get sides from 10mg d-bol ed , then you would have your answer as to do NO steroids ever. That would mean your really prone to sides. A friend of mine could not even do 250mg of Enanthate without his nipples lactating. Now that is prone !!
Getting big to him was not as impostant as it is to some of the "Young dumb and full of cum " bro's I've heard on the boards.
Listen to your body bro , live and learn !
Getting big to him was not as impostant as it is to some of the "Young dumb and full of cum " bro's I've heard on the boards.
Listen to your body bro , live and learn !
panteracfh
Knows whats up
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StoneColdNTO
Administrator
ConT said:
1 kg = 2.2 lbs........just do the conversion.
I am 19. Here is my suggestion if your heart is set... go to EVERY doctor you ever went to... before i started i got...
- A physical
- A blood test
- Dermotologist check up (told him i was breaking out bad got some minocycline)
- Found a friend who has experience in using IN ADDITION to reading everything i could on the areas
i would also suggest starting 400-500mg Test Cyp or Enth, if you arent ready to use a needle you arent ready to use
be prepared for the effects even if they wont take place (hair cream, acne medicine, nolvadex) be prepared to get caught by friends and parents
i completely agree with mental maturity, you need to be prepared to take MORE shit then ever when you are on... it will not make you "Rage" but it makes me more aggitated and murphy's law will not be on YOUR side.
- A physical
- A blood test
- Dermotologist check up (told him i was breaking out bad got some minocycline)
- Found a friend who has experience in using IN ADDITION to reading everything i could on the areas
i would also suggest starting 400-500mg Test Cyp or Enth, if you arent ready to use a needle you arent ready to use
be prepared for the effects even if they wont take place (hair cream, acne medicine, nolvadex) be prepared to get caught by friends and parents
i completely agree with mental maturity, you need to be prepared to take MORE shit then ever when you are on... it will not make you "Rage" but it makes me more aggitated and murphy's law will not be on YOUR side.
