your longest test cycle?
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swoleup
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I" start off with a mistake I made. I "acquired" from a friend who stopped by my house on the way in from Mexico to New Orleans, a shoebox of Sust. 250 preloaded syringes. Well I had been working out for about 6 mos at the time and figured what the hell, why not.... That shoebox got me started, had horrible sides, no idea what I was doing, no pct, no guidance... I started using over a gram of gear a week for my first cycle.. Used up the shoebox and bought more. In the early days I thought nothing of using a gram or more weekly for 10 to 14 mos. This was in the 90's before the internet and websites. I learned the wrong way from some "big guy" at the gym... I'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) now and will be from here on out. So yeah over a gram weekly for a year or longer. Paying for it now at 38 yrs old.
frazier512
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damn Swoleup, that really sucks, amazing what the WWW can do
swoleup
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Yeah, no shit I thought it was great at the time. I def. saw results, but I had no direction or guidance. On the other hand, if life gets in the way, and I don't train for a while- I have great muscle memory from all the AAS I did in my early 20's. Wish I had all the gear i wasted!!
brownchoclit
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how has this affected you swole? you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) ?
swoleup
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You right, back on track. 800 mgs test,600 mgs deca, 50 to 100 mgs of anadrol til' my second bottle was gone. Did this for about 9 mos.
swoleup
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Yeah currently cruising 400 mgs of cypionate a week...
frazier512
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always think of doing a 20+ week cycle, but then time off would be so damn long. lol. longest for me is 12 weeks, thats what im doing now. but would like to hear feedback from people who have been on long cycles
Just because you go on a long cycle doesn't mean you will be on trt. That is a huge misconception and scare tactic. Yes you could shut down hpta and not recover it. That's a risk with a 4,8,10,12,20,30,56 week cycle.
I personally know guys who stayed on 2 years straight and recovered fully. They also had a rough post cycle therapy (pct), became very depressed because of lack of test and androgens, lost a good amount of weight.
Years and years ago, I ran test/dec/tren/dbol cycles with zero post cycle therapy (pct). None at all. Didn't even know what tren was or a post cycle therapy (pct) but I knew my buddies were looking crazy on it. I don't remember crashing hard at all.
I would never do that again, it's retarded, but ancillaries weren't so readily available as they are today. I did find my first research company back then and started to use post cycle therapy (pct). Other than that my buddy had to steal nolva from his mom who was a drug rep.
You are warned, and instructed to keep cycles a certain length to minimize sides and increase your chances of recovering hpta. But it's not gauranteed.
Blood work is more important than set times or how long you can go. I can stay on test for an entire year with zero kidney or liver issues. Values come back perfect but lipids eventually get screwed up and bp gets out of control so essentially I can't stay on all the time. Without blood work a 10 week cycle could be tearing you up and you wouldn't know. Spend the money using the bloodwork sticky and get bloods on cycle too. And not justfor test and estro. You should already know you T is good since you paid for it, trusted source, but you need to see what's happening with everything else.
So I have ran long cycles, I don't know the exact time, I do know that I will get blood work every 8-10 weeks that I'm on and re evaluate from there.
12-20 weeks is all anyone should need. That's a long time. Risk of sides becomes greater and post cycle therapy (pct) will likely become more difficult. The thing I don't like is you then have to use more ancillaries for linger periods of time and I think those are as bad or worse then the gear.
I'm not talking about orals or tren, which some guys are crazy with that but the majority of us here do this as a hobby. So health should be most important. Bloodwork is the top priority before, during, during, after. See exactly how the cycle effects you. Take supplements like fish oils, coQ10, red yeast rice, niacin, vit e & c, liv 52 & milk thistle. Hcg is a must.
There are some studies out saying AAS users who have been on long periods of time and are hypogonadal because of it, actually may have younger and healthier testes because they have been dormant instead of working and aging.
Studies can show anything you want. Not using post cycle therapy (pct) is retarded, running non stop cycles is a problem waiting to happen especially without regular blood work, gains slow to almost nothing unless you start adding ridiculous amounts. You want good gains, take breaks, post cycle therapy (pct), let your body recover and stabize. Be smart. These things are different for every single person. Each person will handle test differently. It may cause one side for me and another for someone else and most people that think they had no sides at all would be surprised what bloods show at times. Lipids take a hit.
I personally know guys who stayed on 2 years straight and recovered fully. They also had a rough post cycle therapy (pct), became very depressed because of lack of test and androgens, lost a good amount of weight.
Years and years ago, I ran test/dec/tren/dbol cycles with zero post cycle therapy (pct). None at all. Didn't even know what tren was or a post cycle therapy (pct) but I knew my buddies were looking crazy on it. I don't remember crashing hard at all.
I would never do that again, it's retarded, but ancillaries weren't so readily available as they are today. I did find my first research company back then and started to use post cycle therapy (pct). Other than that my buddy had to steal nolva from his mom who was a drug rep.
You are warned, and instructed to keep cycles a certain length to minimize sides and increase your chances of recovering hpta. But it's not gauranteed.
Blood work is more important than set times or how long you can go. I can stay on test for an entire year with zero kidney or liver issues. Values come back perfect but lipids eventually get screwed up and bp gets out of control so essentially I can't stay on all the time. Without blood work a 10 week cycle could be tearing you up and you wouldn't know. Spend the money using the bloodwork sticky and get bloods on cycle too. And not justfor test and estro. You should already know you T is good since you paid for it, trusted source, but you need to see what's happening with everything else.
So I have ran long cycles, I don't know the exact time, I do know that I will get blood work every 8-10 weeks that I'm on and re evaluate from there.
12-20 weeks is all anyone should need. That's a long time. Risk of sides becomes greater and post cycle therapy (pct) will likely become more difficult. The thing I don't like is you then have to use more ancillaries for linger periods of time and I think those are as bad or worse then the gear.
I'm not talking about orals or tren, which some guys are crazy with that but the majority of us here do this as a hobby. So health should be most important. Bloodwork is the top priority before, during, during, after. See exactly how the cycle effects you. Take supplements like fish oils, coQ10, red yeast rice, niacin, vit e & c, liv 52 & milk thistle. Hcg is a must.
There are some studies out saying AAS users who have been on long periods of time and are hypogonadal because of it, actually may have younger and healthier testes because they have been dormant instead of working and aging.
Studies can show anything you want. Not using post cycle therapy (pct) is retarded, running non stop cycles is a problem waiting to happen especially without regular blood work, gains slow to almost nothing unless you start adding ridiculous amounts. You want good gains, take breaks, post cycle therapy (pct), let your body recover and stabize. Be smart. These things are different for every single person. Each person will handle test differently. It may cause one side for me and another for someone else and most people that think they had no sides at all would be surprised what bloods show at times. Lipids take a hit.
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China_Wall
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longest run was July 2002 - August 2008... the following year and a half WAS NOT pretty... but now been back on again since May of this year and all is good haha 
for me I know:
on = good China_wall
off = not the guy anyone would want to be
for me I know:
on = good China_wall
off = not the guy anyone would want to be
damn your the man user! appreciate the post. Im on 12wks of test with no side effects(blood work conforms) but I have hit a wall, and stopped gaining... I'm thinking about adding some anavar and some eq, I have for another 12wks, because i have a meet late january and theres not enough time to pct, wait, start again.. so I'm conflicted lol.
PhoenixBuff
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I've gone a straight year before on a test only cycle and never had an issue - mind you, I wasn't taking a crazy amount but I felt good and looked good as well. Everyone is different I guess. Went back on a few months ago after a long layoff and the results are amazing. So as "User" said, taking breaks is the smart thing to do and I highly recommend getting your blood checked regularly.
swoleup
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Good info. I was able to recover from my mistakes and go on to have healthy kids. The stupid shit I did was in my 20's.. I didn't get testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) til well into my 30's.
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