Ok I am now done reading the thread and kinda put my foot in my mouth. Thank you heavy for posting these results.
Now there are a couple generics testing higher, but not many, in fact most are lower and bunk. I'm happy to see that Z does have gh instead of the complete fakes many are sending out. It just sucks that you can't gauge how much you want to use and every batch will be different.
IMO the initial buyer, being the supplier (Z) should have someone who gets a lab done from every 10 kits, then when they get the results in the following day or two they either deny the batch or go forward with the purchase.
I'm glad to see people waking up and checking their labs but I see so many guys saying I have this or that brand, can someone test it, what good will that do you because it could be a different batch or supplier so spend the little amount it cost and test your own. If your source won't resend a replacement right away, find a new source.
I will say my favorite and most trusted source has had under dosed, replicas, and bunk, plus some good gh and I honestly believe he thought he had the real deal. He really took care of the issue so again this thread is really nothing to do with Z on a negative stand point, because he is allowing his guys to post results even with us bitching and calling them underdosed so you have to respect that. I think nothing has changed, most guys imagined the results or were on so many other things they associated the results.
Now the gh that has been steadily good is what I'm going to have to stick to, they are cheap, have years of backing, have proven in every way to be very good so if I were you guys I would stop looking and jump on the two we know are good.
Also should we be measuring in mg or iu because depending on how it made it could change the iu/mg. But either way thank you guys for your efforts, thanks for believing in your bossman enough to publicly post and to let us all complain and you guys continue to post results. I think you are really doing your boss a great service because he obviously trust you and when you contact him with your results and say this is where 10 iu but serum, he can trust that it was 10 iu not 5 iu and some guy trying to skew results to get free product.
Let's remember guys that the suppliers are getting screwed just like we are, but when I say supplier getting screwed I mean lied to, yet making bank off it. I wish I could get screwed like that. Instead we give up our hard earned money, and end up with paper weights or half the product we paid for, so I guess I'm going back to f the gh until it can produce results close to pharma, consistently. When I buy a generic med from the pharmacy I expect it to be exactly the same as name brand.
Another thing guys need to remember, you don't need gh, it's not the end of the world, you can get freaking jacked from AAS.
I hope this turns out for the best and i hope you guys do end up with the best products. And just for the reps, we are hard on you guys, you guys do a great job and I'm sure are not getting compensated enough for what you really do and what you put up with. So we all need to remember that no matter what happens it's not the reps fault, they can only do so much, but i think you guys get a lot of criticism and maybe guys who question things because so many either bought ug gear sold as hg, and after it was proven they were switched and called a replica. No doubt it was real gear but it made slot of us kinda unsure on how to process that. But I know my boy repo loves Z, has had great experiences with him, and as far as I know repo has always been honest and helpful and was always just grateful for a source, speaking of I haven't seen repo around.
Other guys need to test your gh, it's easy and cheap.
Now there are a couple generics testing higher, but not many, in fact most are lower and bunk. I'm happy to see that Z does have gh instead of the complete fakes many are sending out. It just sucks that you can't gauge how much you want to use and every batch will be different.
IMO the initial buyer, being the supplier (Z) should have someone who gets a lab done from every 10 kits, then when they get the results in the following day or two they either deny the batch or go forward with the purchase.
I'm glad to see people waking up and checking their labs but I see so many guys saying I have this or that brand, can someone test it, what good will that do you because it could be a different batch or supplier so spend the little amount it cost and test your own. If your source won't resend a replacement right away, find a new source.
I will say my favorite and most trusted source has had under dosed, replicas, and bunk, plus some good gh and I honestly believe he thought he had the real deal. He really took care of the issue so again this thread is really nothing to do with Z on a negative stand point, because he is allowing his guys to post results even with us bitching and calling them underdosed so you have to respect that. I think nothing has changed, most guys imagined the results or were on so many other things they associated the results.
Now the gh that has been steadily good is what I'm going to have to stick to, they are cheap, have years of backing, have proven in every way to be very good so if I were you guys I would stop looking and jump on the two we know are good.
Also should we be measuring in mg or iu because depending on how it made it could change the iu/mg. But either way thank you guys for your efforts, thanks for believing in your bossman enough to publicly post and to let us all complain and you guys continue to post results. I think you are really doing your boss a great service because he obviously trust you and when you contact him with your results and say this is where 10 iu but serum, he can trust that it was 10 iu not 5 iu and some guy trying to skew results to get free product.
Let's remember guys that the suppliers are getting screwed just like we are, but when I say supplier getting screwed I mean lied to, yet making bank off it. I wish I could get screwed like that. Instead we give up our hard earned money, and end up with paper weights or half the product we paid for, so I guess I'm going back to f the gh until it can produce results close to pharma, consistently. When I buy a generic med from the pharmacy I expect it to be exactly the same as name brand.
Another thing guys need to remember, you don't need gh, it's not the end of the world, you can get freaking jacked from AAS.
I hope this turns out for the best and i hope you guys do end up with the best products. And just for the reps, we are hard on you guys, you guys do a great job and I'm sure are not getting compensated enough for what you really do and what you put up with. So we all need to remember that no matter what happens it's not the reps fault, they can only do so much, but i think you guys get a lot of criticism and maybe guys who question things because so many either bought ug gear sold as hg, and after it was proven they were switched and called a replica. No doubt it was real gear but it made slot of us kinda unsure on how to process that. But I know my boy repo loves Z, has had great experiences with him, and as far as I know repo has always been honest and helpful and was always just grateful for a source, speaking of I haven't seen repo around.
Other guys need to test your gh, it's easy and cheap.