1 month on TRT (injections)

[Megatron28]

My guess is the regular, but I'll have to ask. Also since you recommend the morning before my next pin, will that be my highest level or lowest?

Getting blood work right before you normally pin is your trough (low point). About 24 hours after you pin is approximately your peak (high point).

Don't guess on Regular or Sensitive. It can make a big difference. Especially for you. Your E2 may be just about perfect/slightly low or extremely low depending on which Assay you had done. A simple phone call should be able to address your question. Find out the specific name of the Assay that the lab ran. There are different assays and some are more precise than others -- especially at lower levels.

 

[Megatron28]

Where do I want my estradiol at compared to my testosterone? Im taking .8ml of 200mg (split every 3.5), is that a normal weekly dose?

From reading all the posts, it looks like the highest I can get my Total T while keeping estradiol and RBC in check is the way to go, is that thinking wrong?

Using the Sensitive Assay, most guys like to fall into the 20-40pg/ml range. But everyone is different.

The Regular Assay is often overstated by 10-20 points.

 

[Megatron28]

20-30pg/ml is the sweet spot. Too low is just as bad as too high. As halfwit said, increasing your T will increase estradiol because your body will convert T into estradiol. Generally speaking the higher body fat you have the faster the conversion process.

FYI.. At 50mg of Cyp E3.5D my estradiol was 57pg/ml (non sensitive) - a little too high. I'm about 12-14% body fat and 163 lbs.

Note: that range is with the Sensitive Assay.

 

[Megatron28]

If my Estradiol gets too high, what's else besides lowering my dosage can I do? I read that going to every 3.5 days vice a 7 days should help, but is ther anything over the counter I could use. I'm pretty sure a Dr described AI is off the table.

First thing is to pin more frequently. That can helpma lot.

DIM and Zinc can help to some degree.

Lower your TT dosage.

Use and AI

Lower your body fat.



Have you read the Basic TRT Overview Sticky yet? It covers a lot of the questions you are asking. Please take time to read it or read it again if you already have.

 

[BDTMD]

First thing is to pin more frequently. That can helpma lot.

DIM and Zinc can help to some degree.

Lower your TT dosage.

Use and AI

Lower your body fat.



Have you read the Basic TRT Overview Sticky yet? It covers a lot of the questions you are asking. Please take time to read it or read it again if you already have.

I'm feeling better, at least I think I am! I guess I have more energy. Someone earlier suggested getting my blood test the morning before my next pin. I pin Sat morning and Tues night, so I'm thinking I would test on Tues morning which would give me my trough. Is that a good idea? Or I could test on Thurs morning which might be my peak

 

[halfwit]

I'm feeling better, at least I think I am! I guess I have more energy. Someone earlier suggested getting my blood test the morning before my next pin. I pin Sat morning and Tues night, so I'm thinking I would test on Tues morning which would give me my trough. Is that a good idea? Or I could test on Thurs morning which might be my peak

Two days after an injection is your peak, Tues morning would indeed be your trough.

 

[Megatron28]

I'm feeling better, at least I think I am! I guess I have more energy. Someone earlier suggested getting my blood test the morning before my next pin. I pin Sat morning and Tues night, so I'm thinking I would test on Tues morning which would give me my trough. Is that a good idea? Or I could test on Thurs morning which might be my peak

Tuesday afternoon would be better than the morning to get a trough reading. But not a huge concern if you can't make that timing work.

 

[juced_porkchop]

It takes longer than two weeks to kick in (reach blood serum saturation levels). You just need to give it more time. Probably another 2-4 weeks.

i agree on giving it more time OP

 

[BDTMD]

Tuesday afternoon would be better than the morning to get a trough reading. But not a huge concern if you can't make that timing work.

I guess what I'm still unsure about is what do the peak and trough levels tell you? Is it better to know your peak or trough? My last test was on a Tues around 10:00am which was my trough and it was 750.

Should I test on a Thurs morning and see what my peak is?

 

[Chiefy]

I guess what I'm still unsure about is what do the peak and trough levels tell you? Is it better to know your peak or trough? My last test was on a Tues around 10:00am which was my trough and it was 750.

Should I test on a Thurs morning and see what my peak is?

Peak is when your hormones are the highest, trough is the lowest. Most people place more value on trough labs.

You're overthinking it man. When you're injecting multiple times per week, your hormones will be relatively stable. Meaning, not a huge difference between peak and trough values. Many of us just like to know the finer details of our hormone levels.

Peak vs trough testing becomes much more important for those who are spacing their injections out, as their hormones will be significantly higher after injection vs 7 days later or whatever the protocol may be.

There's no need to stress about exact timing of your labs when you're injecting every few days.

 

[AverageMan]

Or you can get a mid-level reading by going 1/2 way between shots.

For example: I pin 50mg on Sunday morning and Wed night and tested 700 total T on Tuesday morning. My next blood test I will get a trough reading so I can understand how much my T swings in between pinning.