Ctodenbach
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The baseline question is, am I undoubtedly too young to start a AAS cycle?
Many people just see this question and respond with YES before blinking an eye, but first allow me to tell you about myself and a cycle or two that I am considering.
Starting lifting weights at about 14, i was way more educated and way more serious by age 17, and for the last year and a half i haven't missed more than a week at the gym and diet has been pretty good. i wasn't a fool just walking into the gym. I began going with my dad who is very into bodybuilding. he educated himself and myself very much, majority of what i do are stems of his varieties of solid lift routines. his states are (roughly):
Age: 41
Weight:195 (he's lost a lot of weight lately)
Height: 6 foot 1 inch
BF%: i'd guess him around 11-13%
3 Rep Max
bench: 375
squat: 375 (lol)
dead: 315
Most of us idolize our fathers no matter what, but i just included this to show that he does know a thing or too about lifting.
now for my stats
Age: 19
Weight: 220 (lbs)
Height: 6 foot.
BF%: 17-20%
3 Rep Max's (pounds)
Bench: 295
Squat: 455
Deadlift: 315, give or take (i fucking hate these)
Standing straightbar curl: 155
Now cycle wise, i'm not looking to bulk. What i am wanting to do is definitely lean myself out. i can get on a pin point diet, discipline and education is not the issue. My concern is that as losing weight, i'm going to lose too much strength which is sad for me. my goal is to get down to 200 lbs and be able to stay lean, and keep my lifts up. If i could get down to 185-195 that would be even better!
So to the cycle part of this.
-my first thought is to get on some clenbuterol. i know how to dose this, and i have done it before as well as my father. I'm concerned that i could lose too much muscle, or to preserve it, it would take too long for my liking to get down to the weight i want while trying to keep as much muscle as possible.
-my second thought is possibly taking some test cyp and stacking it with clenbuterol. test cyp doesn't make ya retain too much water as compared to enanthate and will definitely help keep my muscle anabolic wanting to grow instead of eating themselves. maybe even adding some t3, but i do not know too much about t3, so unless someone can shed some light upon t3 to me, i'll avoid starting the research lol
-i also have a though about possibly some anavar? i know this is something mild, and it's never been something to interest me until now. I'm starting research upon anavar more so now. if anyone can shed some light, that would be much appreciated, and it can help me have a base as to what to research.
-my final inquery is some winstrol and some test cyp. probably start the Winstrol (winny) about at week 4, and run it through week 8-10. and stay on a lower dose of test cyp, because i'm not looking to make some great gains or anything, just to keep my muslcle from going catabolic.
thoughts, input, are very appreciated, please don't call me an idiot for considering aas at such a young age
Many people just see this question and respond with YES before blinking an eye, but first allow me to tell you about myself and a cycle or two that I am considering.
Starting lifting weights at about 14, i was way more educated and way more serious by age 17, and for the last year and a half i haven't missed more than a week at the gym and diet has been pretty good. i wasn't a fool just walking into the gym. I began going with my dad who is very into bodybuilding. he educated himself and myself very much, majority of what i do are stems of his varieties of solid lift routines. his states are (roughly):
Age: 41
Weight:195 (he's lost a lot of weight lately)
Height: 6 foot 1 inch
BF%: i'd guess him around 11-13%
3 Rep Max
bench: 375
squat: 375 (lol)
dead: 315
Most of us idolize our fathers no matter what, but i just included this to show that he does know a thing or too about lifting.
now for my stats
Age: 19
Weight: 220 (lbs)
Height: 6 foot.
BF%: 17-20%
3 Rep Max's (pounds)
Bench: 295
Squat: 455
Deadlift: 315, give or take (i fucking hate these)
Standing straightbar curl: 155
Now cycle wise, i'm not looking to bulk. What i am wanting to do is definitely lean myself out. i can get on a pin point diet, discipline and education is not the issue. My concern is that as losing weight, i'm going to lose too much strength which is sad for me. my goal is to get down to 200 lbs and be able to stay lean, and keep my lifts up. If i could get down to 185-195 that would be even better!
So to the cycle part of this.
-my first thought is to get on some clenbuterol. i know how to dose this, and i have done it before as well as my father. I'm concerned that i could lose too much muscle, or to preserve it, it would take too long for my liking to get down to the weight i want while trying to keep as much muscle as possible.
-my second thought is possibly taking some test cyp and stacking it with clenbuterol. test cyp doesn't make ya retain too much water as compared to enanthate and will definitely help keep my muscle anabolic wanting to grow instead of eating themselves. maybe even adding some t3, but i do not know too much about t3, so unless someone can shed some light upon t3 to me, i'll avoid starting the research lol
-i also have a though about possibly some anavar? i know this is something mild, and it's never been something to interest me until now. I'm starting research upon anavar more so now. if anyone can shed some light, that would be much appreciated, and it can help me have a base as to what to research.
-my final inquery is some winstrol and some test cyp. probably start the Winstrol (winny) about at week 4, and run it through week 8-10. and stay on a lower dose of test cyp, because i'm not looking to make some great gains or anything, just to keep my muslcle from going catabolic.
thoughts, input, are very appreciated, please don't call me an idiot for considering aas at such a young age
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