250 mg/wk test e and drug testing

[Donkey Kong Jr]

Hi, I'm a cheatin' and competin' athlete with a competition coming op and as the topic of this thread more than indicates I shoot 250mg test e once a week. My questions are these:
1) Can I stay on this and pass a drug test?
2) What should my T/E ratio look like? (cap for the test is 4:1)
3) if the answer to 1 is "no", how close to the competition should I stop injecting to pass the test?

Hope to get some useful answers and not just getting flamed for competing all roided up, please forgive me...

 

[Bullseye Forever]

Unless they blood test for steroids,they wont detect anything if im not mistaken,i may be wrong

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

It's only a urine test.

You don't think I'd get caught even if I took my regular shot on thursday and competed and possibly got tested saturday? Just for safe measure I could skip the shot that last thursday and postpone it to after the competition, just to be sure.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

It's only a urine test.

You don't think I'd get caught even if I took my regular shot on thursday and competed and possibly got tested saturday? Just for safe measure I could skip the shot that last thursday and postpone it to after the competition, just to be sure.

skipping the shot wont make a difference,cause the test will still show up,but like i said,unless they are testing strictly for testosterone levels,you shouldnt have any worries at all

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

It's not detection of T I'm worried about, it's my T/E level, they can check that with a urine test.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

It's not detection of T I'm worried about, it's my T/E level, they can check that with a urine test.

T/E level? do you mean test/estrogen level?

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

No, the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone, an indicator of "foreign" T in the system since epitest is a byproduct of the body's natural production of T. That's how they check for test abuse in urine.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

No, the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone, an indicator of "foreign" T in the system since epitest is a byproduct of the body's natural production of T. That's how they check for test abuse in urine.

oh....uuummm well brother,im not familar with that,sorry,the best people to ask about this is Userat2004,Det-Oak,DADAWG,Cobra Strike....they can help you more than i can,they are very,very smart and knowledgable about stuff like this,sorry i couldnt be of any help

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

By pointing out those guys you've been very helpful, thanks

I'll give it a bit of time and see if they'll join in by themselves otherwise I'll give them a little nudge.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

By pointing out those guys you've been very helpful, thanks

I'll give it a bit of time and see if they'll join in by themselves otherwise I'll give them a little nudge.

you are welcome brother,i know they will chime in,or like you said give them a ring,they will help you

 

[China_Wall]

u will need at least 8 weeks after your last shot to have a decent chance of passing that test bro, with some people it is up to 16 weeks...

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

8 weeks seems a bit extreme on such a low dose. 8 weeks = 56 days = 11 ½-lives, so about 0.1% of peak levels would be left. Where do you get this info from?

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

Are you sure you're not confusing it with detection time in serum? It's a urine test.

 

[China_Wall]

u can choose to run it right up til your competition date, but u will be very sorry bro... and the dosage has no effect on detection time, 250mg or 1000mg a week will stay in the body the same time... if u are a serious athlete u should know these things already and wouldn't be running long esters...stick to water based, acetates and propionates in future

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

Detection time isn't the issue here as there is no test for the ester itself, the test is for the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone.... This has very much to do with dosage.

 

[cashout]

Detection time isn't the issue here as there is no test for the ester itself, the test is for the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone.... This has very much to do with dosage.

It won't help you at this late date for Saturday, but I'd suggest you look into a trans-dermal epitestostererone cream for the future if you plan to continue your program.

There are several out there that are very useful for establishing an acceptable T/E ratio. Although it takes a little trial and error for each athlete.

Victor Conte's is the most famous example.

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

The competition is not this saturday, it's not for months.

Strange that it's so hard to find info on this subject. Clearly I can't be the first person interested in how much/little test I can take while still cruising under the radar?

 

[BigKevKris]

Like cashout said....additional epitest is the only way to pass...but you will need to trial and error first to find out what works

 

[Donkey Kong Jr]

It seems pretty unlikely that epitest and going off 3 months before is the only option. 250mg/wk is a pretty low dose and only puts me in the high end or just outside of this compared to test levels of healthy individuals. I spoke to a guy I know that has a phd in a related area and he thinks a person would be able to do about 200mg/wk without being detected at all while some individuals can do as much as 500mg/wk without failong tests because of an inhibited gene, and this anomaly isn't very uncommon at all.

I appreciate that people want to weigh in, but unless you have som real info, you're just confusing me and everybody else who has interest in this topic.

 

[UserAt204]

He's not saying going off your dose he's saying use the epitest cream while on that dose and see how much you need to find a suitable ratio. This shouldn't be that difficult but will likey require a few urine test thru a doc or on your own if you can get them to figure out how to manage that ratio at 250mg per week.