250mg of test a week enough?

mozzwigan

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I am 24
5.8
13.4 Stone
18% BF

I am going on my first cycle tomorrow (test-e) @ 12wks, But there is one question I'm curious on....

How different will the gains be by only using 250mg a week instead of 500.. Is it enough?
 
Im stuck with the same question and interested to see how this thread goes. Ive read everything i could for weeks now and im still a bit unclear. Its my first AAS cycle but have messed with PH in the past.

Due to this my thoughts are to run 12 wk @ 250 + Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) + Adex. then 4 weeks nolva + clomid post cycle therapy (pct). I think the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) etc might be overkill for 250 wk, seems to be mixed reviews on that one.

The point: Im feeling for 1st cycle its better to run low dose & make sure everything is cool by the end of post cycle therapy (pct). Based on results / sides ill re-run it or bump it to 500 next time. Plenty of time, think its better to go slow and ramp up. Im interested to see what everyone else thinks.

Keep us posted on what you decide. And good luck with your cycle!
 
I wouldn't cycle with anything less than 500mg. 250mg is a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. Theres a sticky about cycling 300mg vs 600mg. I wouldn't go any lower than 350mg if it was prop.
 
^^^ this, and sweet juicy avi


if your a high test person naturally, then 250/week will be about what your body would have produced natty. so all 250/week would do shut your natty test down and give minimal gains

now if your on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), its a different story
 
Read the sticky on the top of this forum 300vs600mg testosterone per week and you will definitely change your mind 250 is barely any when 200 is a natural hormone replacement dose. That's only 50 more Mgs not to mention in 250mg of test e there is only like 187mg of testosterone the rest is the weight of the ester. I promise you that we will see you back on here in about 4-6 weeks saying you have not noticed any gains or any sides for that matter so 250mg complete waste of time
 
Not trying to jack the thread but just wanted to say thanks for the help guys. Im going to bump to 500 based on the feedback (ive been of a mixed mind on the subject anyway).
 
I did my first cycle when i was 18. I was on Deca 400mg and test enan 250mg aw. Was on for 6 weeks and i did gain 15kg's.. My second cycle was the same. If u post up 400mg deca and 250mg test aw now. Do all the guys laugh and say u have to bump up the test. And u have to use more test then deca. All this is just BUNK !! Now days do everyone go crazy on the doses. And not everything that comes out here is true.

Yes you can do a cycle doing 250mg test aw. And expect great gains bro !! Start out with 250mg aw and bump it up in week 6 if u not feel happy about the dose..

Test only for a first cycle do them all say. Why ? So u can see how u react to the test alone. This is a great way to start. But why bump 500mg aw. If we just going to chek out how we react to test alone ??

To say that u wont gain from 250mg aw is ''BUNK''

The web is like a vireus and everyone get infected from what guys post up here.. Lets not forget that many guys use the web to get rich on roids.. Thats why all this new fancy stuf is all over..

To frontload or not ?? I have done it but it does nothing...

To do post cycle therapy (pct) or not ?? Yes but u will lose the same amount of weight so why do it..

There are so many things that i am against when we talk about steroids and how to do it. Back in the day we did no post cycle therapy (pct) and had no problem with this. After reading about post cycle therapy (pct) for the first time. Did i expect so much from it. But it does nothing. Ok u will recover faster but u will drop the same amount of size anyway. So why bother do it ?? I talk against my self now. Because i do post cycle therapy (pct) after all my cycles. But i all ways lose the same amount of weight. So to say that u will keep more gains from doing post cycle therapy (pct) is just ''BUNK''

My point is that all the tings that comes out now day is not necassery. So not believe everything that u read on the forums...
 
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I wouldn't cycle with anything less than 500mg. 250mg is a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. Theres a sticky about cycling 300mg vs 600mg. I wouldn't go any lower than 350mg if it was prop.

What lucky bastard is getting a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of 250? I'm on 80mg? I've done a cycle at 500 before and i've done 250 before you make gains either way. It all depends on your dieting.
 
I did my first cycle when i was 18. I was on Deca 400mg and test enan 250mg aw. Was on for 6 weeks and i did gain 15kg's.. My second cycle was the same. If u post up 400mg deca and 250mg test aw now. Do all the guys laugh and say u have to bump up the test. And u have to use more test then deca. All this is just BUNK !! Now days do everyone go crazy on the doses. And not everything that comes out here is true.

Yes you can do a cycle doing 250mg test aw. And expect great gains bro !! Start out with 250mg aw and bump it up in week 6 if u not feel happy about the dose..

Test only for a first cycle do them all say. Why ? So u can see how u react to the test alone. This is a great way to start. But why bump 500mg aw. If we just going to chek out how we react to test alone ??

To say that u wont gain from 250mg aw is ''BUNK''

The web is like a vireus and everyone get infected from what guys post up here.. Lets not forget that many guys use the web to get rich on roids.. Thats why all this new fancy stuf is all over..

To frontload or not ?? I have done it but it does nothing...

To do post cycle therapy (pct) or not ?? Yes but u will lose the same amount of weight so why do it..

There are so many things that i am against when we talk about steroids and how to do it. Back in the day we did no post cycle therapy (pct) and had no problem with this. After reading about post cycle therapy (pct) for the first time. Did i expect so much from it. But it does nothing. Ok u will recover faster but u will drop the same amount of size anyway. So why bother do it ?? I talk against my self now. Because i do post cycle therapy (pct) my after all my cycles. But i all ways lose the same amount of weight. So to say that u will keep more gains from doing post cycle therapy (pct) is just ''BUNK''

My point is that all the tings that comes out now day is not necassery. So not believe everything that u read on the forums...

so your telling me to not bother with clomid/nolva after the cycle? I thought that was the whole point? To restore natty test and help keep gains? at least some of it anyway
 
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so your telling me to not bother with clomid/nolva after the cycle? I thought that was the whole point? To restore natty test and help keep gains? at least some of it anyway

Bro im old school.. And if u use nolva and clom or not its up to u.. U will recover and get ur dick back in action faster. But the gains will be the same..

I can do a 8-10 weeks cycle with test and deca forex. And i will keep and lose the same amount of weight if i do pct or not.

Not believe everything here bro. And try things out for ur self. This way u will know what works for u and not. Most guys here just write what other guys have been saying. And not know to much about things any way...

BUMP !!
 
Bro im old school.. And if u use nolva and clom or not its up to u.. U will recover and get ur dick back in action faster. But the gains will be the same..

I can do a 8-10 weeks cycle with test and deca forex. And i will keep and lose the same amount of weight if i do pct or not.

Not believe everything here bro. And try things out for ur self. This way u will know what works for u and not. Most guys here just write what other guys have been saying. And not know to much about things any way...

BUMP !!

i like the bit where you say "Most guys here just write what other guys have been saying" lol

Thanks for your advice mate!

I think my girl will deffo want me to PCT :p
 
yep amen brother
lot of "broscience" on this site

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...3-low-dose-cycles-truth-myth.html#post3057453
yes u can gain on that amount ive done it ran post cycle therapy (pct) then ran250
bridging between cycles

i def prefer 500

Yes and i agree with u. I use enan right now at 750mg and mast p at 600mg aw. But for a first time 250mg should be enaugh. I have seen frinds gain 10kg's in 8 weeks on only 250mg enan aw. The question from the OP was can i do 250 or do i have to use 500mg aw. And if u asking me will 500mg be spot on. But again i think 250mg will do the job..
 
"What lucky bastard is getting a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of 250? I'm on 80mg? I've done a cycle at 500 before and i've done 250 before you make gains either way. It all depends on your dieting. "

I am on TRT. 300mg ew.

I lowered it a little now though. Walking around at 2500+ test all the time is a bit much.
 
for sure u can get some good gains from 250mg's of test per week... as a male u produce maximum 150mg's of test naturally per week (sorry R!rider, but this is true), so 250mg's is a good bump

I cruise on 200mg's of cyp for 10-12wks between every "real" run of gear and it seems to work fine for me ;)
 
250 you will still get gains from. But IMHO if i was going to shut down my natty levels on a Test only cycle i wouldnt be doing lower than 400-500.

having said that im a big fan of 250 prop and 450 tren
 
Ok possible newb question. Assuming 250 is a normal dose and is basically equal to natty production: If you take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during a cycle of test e @ 250/wk would your natural production stay where it is and the 250 test e add to your natty produced test or does it not work that way? In my head it kind of makes sense but my biochem is very poor...

Thanks in advance
 
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