3 weeks into TRT...................

Why would you end testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) three weeks in? That's crazy talk. Fight through the anxiety. It should get better as your levels stabilize.

If you think the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or adex is doing it, you can stop either of them. But keep taking the test cyp. Get labs after a month and see if E2 has gotten too high or low.

Yes I am def stop that fucking ADEX and HCG....
I might take 130 mg T on Tuesday or Wednesday...wait for this shit to subside...
next shot was sunday...will wait a day or two for things to level out. Don't take any ADEX at all eh from here on out ?
 
Megatron, I hope your efforts are appreciated by members in this section as much as I do. You're certainly bringing life to this section.

Bro where were you all this time ??
I missed you man...
You abandoned me throughout this Low T debacle.
 
Yes I am def stop that fucking ADEX and HCG....
I might take 130 mg T on Tuesday or Wednesday...wait for this shit to subside...
next shot was sunday...will wait a day or two for things to level out. Don't take any ADEX at all eh from here on out ?

Injecting 80mg of test every 3.5 days instead of 160mg every 7 days will help smooth out the roller coaster ride and reduce aromatization.
 
Injecting 80mg of test every 3.5 days instead of 160mg every 7 days will help smooth out the roller coaster ride and reduce aromatization.

So if next shot was due this sunday...how should I do it?
and if I jab every 7 and do the 160 how can I not get this anxiety stuff from high or low E2?
When should my next dose of 0.25 mg ADEX be from here on out?
 
So if next shot was due this sunday...how should I do it?
and if I jab every 7 and do the 160 how can I not get this anxiety stuff from high or low E2?
When should my next dose of 0.25 mg ADEX be from here on out?

On Sunday morning inject 80mg. On Wednesday, inject 80mg in the evening. Repeat ever Sunday and Wednesday.

No more adex since you said you want to drop it. Are you dropping Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) too?

Get labs in one month to see how you are doing. Make sure you check estradiol.

Do not deviate from this protocol. You have to give it time to work.
 
appolon....i have experienced episodes of anxiety while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) too. i too take paxil. i dont think your anxiety has anything to do with the hcG. I would be hesitant to quit the hcG. Maybe try reducing the adex first, and see if that relieves the anxiety. if you drop both the adex and the hcG, you wont know which one is the culprit.

i had a bad bout with anxiety in the summer. tested my estradiol and it was 9, i simply took too much adex. i backed off the adex, while continuing the hcG. once my e levels rose to a satisfactory degree, my anxiety waned.
 
appolon....i have experienced episodes of anxiety while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) too. i too take paxil. i dont think your anxiety has anything to do with the hcG. I would be hesitant to quit the hcG. Maybe try reducing the adex first, and see if that relieves the anxiety. if you drop both the adex and the hcG, you wont know which one is the culprit.

i had a bad bout with anxiety in the summer. tested my estradiol and it was 9, i simply took too much adex. i backed off the adex, while continuing the hcG. once my e levels rose to a satisfactory degree, my anxiety waned.

I must have crushed my E2...feel more confident today....less anxious.
thanks bro.
 
On Sunday morning inject 80mg. On Wednesday, inject 80mg in the evening. Repeat ever Sunday and Wednesday.

No more adex since you said you want to drop it. Are you dropping Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) too?

Get labs in one month to see how you are doing. Make sure you check estradiol.

Do not deviate from this protocol. You have to give it time to work.

Yes....fuck the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and AI...
80 mg x 2 from now....
thanks bro
 
appolon....i have experienced episodes of anxiety while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) too. i too take paxil. i dont think your anxiety has anything to do with the hcG. I would be hesitant to quit the hcG. Maybe try reducing the adex first, and see if that relieves the anxiety. if you drop both the adex and the hcG, you wont know which one is the culprit.

i had a bad bout with anxiety in the summer. tested my estradiol and it was 9, i simply took too much adex. i backed off the adex, while continuing the hcG. once my e levels rose to a satisfactory degree, my anxiety waned.

I never had Anxiety while on T....
took 200 mg/week for a while and was confident as a bull....
no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at that time.
 
appolon....i have experienced episodes of anxiety while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) too. i too take paxil. i dont think your anxiety has anything to do with the hcG. I would be hesitant to quit the hcG. Maybe try reducing the adex first, and see if that relieves the anxiety. if you drop both the adex and the hcG, you wont know which one is the culprit.

i had a bad bout with anxiety in the summer. tested my estradiol and it was 9, i simply took too much adex. i backed off the adex, while continuing the hcG. once my e levels rose to a satisfactory degree, my anxiety waned.

What's a "satisfactory range" for E2 ?
This result of 9 you had...is this in pg/ml ?
I would have to convert it to pmol/L..to see what it is, as this is what we go by.
I've had my E2 at 95 Pmol/L on a lab with 350 i.u. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3 times a week and 0.25 mg ADEX EOD
 
What's a "satisfactory range" for E2 ?
This result of 9 you had...is this in pg/ml ?
I would have to convert it to pmol/L..to see what it is, as this is what we go by.
I've had my E2 at 95 Pmol/L on a lab with 350 i.u. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3 times a week and 0.25 mg ADEX EOD


pg/ml...i dont know the pmol/l conversions, but 9pg/ml is way low. optimal range is mid-twenties by the books, but some people feel better either a bit higher or lower than that sometimes
 
Feel better today...went for run and burnt some energy off...
Ate my meals and no reactions....no panic, anxiety today. All of this came on late Thursday night after 3 weeks into the TRT...I had taken 0.25 mg ADEX earlier on Thursday as well as 2 days before that and 2 days before that and so on...
I think my E2 was too low....
 
appolon....i have experienced episodes of anxiety while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) too. i too take paxil. i dont think your anxiety has anything to do with the hcG. I would be hesitant to quit the hcG. Maybe try reducing the adex first, and see if that relieves the anxiety. if you drop both the adex and the hcG, you wont know which one is the culprit.

i had a bad bout with anxiety in the summer. tested my estradiol and it was 9, i simply took too much adex. i backed off the adex, while continuing the hcG. once my e levels rose to a satisfactory degree, my anxiety waned.

Were you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at the time this happened ?
Can you describe your protocol ?
 
You shouldn't have started with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), because you don't even know if you need it. You might have crashed your estrogen, which could be casuing the anxiety. High or low E seems to give me mad anxiety, which just sucks. It isn't social anxiety or anything like that. Just my body is anxious, I'll lye in bed and be uncomfroatble. Anyways You need to split up your injections into 2x week. Also Why are you starting with 160mgs per week. Sorry I haven't followed your threads but it seems your 3 weeks into your HRT.

You should be on something as follows
100mgs per week, split into 2x 50mg injections
HCG 250iu 2-3 a week
NO Aromatase inhibitor (AI) yet
test bloods at 6 weeks, get them drawn on the day on injection but don't inject until after bloods are taken
evaluate E and T levels, take it from there.
Always better to start low and go slow, easier to control sides

You've said you felt fine before at 200mgs per week without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), so you prob don't even need one. Plus arimidex is nothing to mess around with, on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosages it's very powerful at least in my experience, one dose of .25 will crash my estrogen overnight.

I'm on 80mgs right now, 40mgs 2x per week with an 800 total t, and estradiol sensitive of 19 without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Everybody's different but you want to use the least number of drugs you can.
 
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I hear you...
I more than likely crashed my E2...
160 mg was the dose I left off with when coming off TRT...
Maybe I should have slowly ramped up starting at 100 mg every 7...
it's done now.
 
I hear you...
I more than likely crashed my E2...
160 mg was the dose I left off with when coming off TRT...
Maybe I should have slowly ramped up starting at 100 mg every 7...
it's done now.

Apollon: do you supplement Taurine? Its miracles have been recounted many times on 'Ology. But it may also help with anxiety. The following is from Wikipedia.


According to animal studies, taurine produces an anxiolytic effect and may act as a modulator or antianxiety agent in the central nervous system by activating the glycine receptor
 
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