BiGnNasty
Bulking
This guy is obese. No offense to the OP. Im just making it a point that this is not his best option for weight loss.
40yr old 300lb - 1st of 3 BEASTROL CYCLES over 1 yr
- Thread starter apconcen
- Start date
This guy is obese. No offense to the OP. Im just making it a point that this is not his best option for weight loss.
Big/Zero,
My 1st week of Beast will be 10mg. Even week 4 & 5 at 30mg will be manageble for me I predict. Have a good look at my supplement intake. Im a pretty fit obese guy
at least blood, heart & cardio wise
My supplement & REST regime[posted before] aint run of the mill guys but thats not only what gives me my health[I think]. I have not gone into it but I am an 'overeating' health freak thats been able to limit alot of damage. I am a Primal/Paleo diet guy within limits and I eat 99% gluten free. Some of the things I do daily are Fish/Krill Oil Oil, 10g of 85% Dark Choc/day, 20g Blueberries ,goji berries ,5g of extra virgin coconut oil, maca, rhodolia, 10 cups of some of the healthest chinese green vegetables, etc, etc
We will see how my health protocol combines with my cycle protocol and if it make any difference. I will certainly eating less food over all.
I will post by a bit more of my training routine this week.
My 1st week of Beast will be 10mg. Even week 4 & 5 at 30mg will be manageble for me I predict. Have a good look at my supplement intake. Im a pretty fit obese guy
at least blood, heart & cardio wiseMy supplement & REST regime[posted before] aint run of the mill guys but thats not only what gives me my health[I think]. I have not gone into it but I am an 'overeating' health freak thats been able to limit alot of damage. I am a Primal/Paleo diet guy within limits and I eat 99% gluten free. Some of the things I do daily are Fish/Krill Oil Oil, 10g of 85% Dark Choc/day, 20g Blueberries ,goji berries ,5g of extra virgin coconut oil, maca, rhodolia, 10 cups of some of the healthest chinese green vegetables, etc, etc
We will see how my health protocol combines with my cycle protocol and if it make any difference. I will certainly eating less food over all.
I will post by a bit more of my training routine this week.
I am considering katana or Helladrol in lieu of beastdrol. Could in the end depends on what arrives over the border 1st.
I tell you a secret I am the kind of person that sets a high goal, almost unattainable with the hope of getting as close as possible. I would be extremely happy with anything below 10 %[300lbs]. That is what an IFBB bodybuilder should look like off season.its all systems go
Kicked of cycle TODAY a few days early
Stats:
40yrs old
6'5"
326lb [now 323lbs/147kg ]
waist 133cm ^^
estimated bodyfat[calipers]- 29% **
^^taken at fattest part of back to fattest part of lower stomach. I actually wear a size 110 waist pants...hmmm... whatever
**bodypod at gym not working so had wife use the Accu-Measure calipers on the thickest part of my stomach. Also took my waist measure as a back up. Thats good enough for me as I dont hold my bodyfat evenly, its more 85% upperbody /15%lower body. Measurement techniques will be kept consistent over the 6 weeks and 4 weeks of pct.
Last week I lost 3lbs on almost 23,000calories/wk[80% clean calories] with 2days HIIT and 100min Cardio so upping my calories[as I will easting 97% clean] for the carb cycling protocol to :
High Carb day 525-625c/300p/75f
Low Carb 300c/300p/55f
LowLow Carb 15c-85c/300p/145f [ extra 250g dry roasted cashews 1st 6 weeks]
The above is about 22,000 calories/week
I will be doing 3-4 HIIT session/wk + extra 200-300min cardio.
New PH Protocol
=============
Wk 1 - 15mg mdrol / 25mg hdrol via 'Phreak'
Wk 2 - 20mg Beastdrol
Wk 3 - 20mg Beastdrol / 1 Phreak cap
Wk 4 & 5 - 30mg Beastdrol
Wk 6 - 30mg Beastdrol / 1 Phreak cap
** 1 Phreak cap = 15mg Mdrol / 25mg Hdrol
[ I suspect the Phreak may not be as potent as Beastdrol..hmmm... maybe underdosed, any serious sides and I will back off]
DIET TODAY - NoCarb
=================
15c/300p/35f
no cashews today[will start on next 3day cycle]
TRAINING TODAY - Light
===================
Abs/Lwr Back [8 sets] - 30mins cardio
---High Carb Day tomorrow will kick off the real training---
Kicked of cycle TODAY a few days early
Stats:
40yrs old
6'5"
326lb [now 323lbs/147kg ]
waist 133cm ^^
estimated bodyfat[calipers]- 29% **
^^taken at fattest part of back to fattest part of lower stomach. I actually wear a size 110 waist pants...hmmm... whatever
**bodypod at gym not working so had wife use the Accu-Measure calipers on the thickest part of my stomach. Also took my waist measure as a back up. Thats good enough for me as I dont hold my bodyfat evenly, its more 85% upperbody /15%lower body. Measurement techniques will be kept consistent over the 6 weeks and 4 weeks of pct.
Last week I lost 3lbs on almost 23,000calories/wk[80% clean calories] with 2days HIIT and 100min Cardio so upping my calories[as I will easting 97% clean] for the carb cycling protocol to :
High Carb day 525-625c/300p/75f
Low Carb 300c/300p/55f
LowLow Carb 15c-85c/300p/145f [ extra 250g dry roasted cashews 1st 6 weeks]
The above is about 22,000 calories/week
I will be doing 3-4 HIIT session/wk + extra 200-300min cardio.
New PH Protocol
=============
Wk 1 - 15mg mdrol / 25mg hdrol via 'Phreak'
Wk 2 - 20mg Beastdrol
Wk 3 - 20mg Beastdrol / 1 Phreak cap
Wk 4 & 5 - 30mg Beastdrol
Wk 6 - 30mg Beastdrol / 1 Phreak cap
** 1 Phreak cap = 15mg Mdrol / 25mg Hdrol
[ I suspect the Phreak may not be as potent as Beastdrol..hmmm... maybe underdosed, any serious sides and I will back off]
DIET TODAY - NoCarb
=================
15c/300p/35f
no cashews today[will start on next 3day cycle]
TRAINING TODAY - Light
===================
Abs/Lwr Back [8 sets] - 30mins cardio
---High Carb Day tomorrow will kick off the real training---
DAY 2
=====
Weight 147kg
Protocol - 1 BEastdrol + 1 Phreak [ changed the starting amt for week1]
Nutrition - 300p/525c/65f
TRAINING
========
Every 2nd, 3day cycle training is modified to new rep range, [5-7reps, 8-12reps then 8-10reps + decending sets, forced reps, & rest pause]
REP Range 5-7[Legs/Calfs]
====================
Overall a good workout[took it a bit easy for 1st real initial cycle workout]
eg.
==
Smith Squats 315lb - 5 good parallel reps
Stiff-leg deadlifts - 135lbs for 7 reps
Seated Calf Raises - 90lbs for 7 reps [ only started working calves 2 weeks ago after 5yrs]
20min regular cardio
DAY 3
=====
weight 146.5
diet 300c/300p/55c
...DA BEAST is kicking in [and in a good way]
Excellent workout, Biggest Pumps ever
eg.
===
Ezi Barbell Extensions - 55lbs - 7reps
Cheat Barbell Curls [yeh the same 1's that Branch tore his bicep doing] - 90lbs - 5reps
Ezi Standing Forearm Reverse Curls - 65lbs - 5reps
15minsHIIT + 5mins cooldown [[ my HIIT heart rate is 143-147bpm]
Overall I am resting well on an excellent supplement regime for any future side effects and I feel the Forma from mR. supps is also leaning me out....wife commented on how my face looks a lot slimmer over past 2 days..yep I noticed my semi-moon face is dissappearing already and my upper body is looking drier as well. She asked me what the hell was in the Forma bottle and I told her not to worry as it was natural Primate Seminal Fluid, she shouted back, "ya mean monkey sperm".. I said 'yes', btw thats exactly what it looks like
I am taking pictures every week and will start posting them at the end of week 2 on MArch 12 [3 pictures should show some real progress - I hope]
DAY 4
=====
Will be 300p/125f/85c instead of 300p/25f/15c as I am adding 250g of dry roasted cashews spread over 6 meals.
either 30min premeal cardio OR fishing in 34C degree sun for 2-3hrs and NO cardio. my fishing is not old man style and requires constant moving & casting so burning 1000calories in the hot sun is not out of the question. Usually I drink 3 Litres water for the whole trip. I suspect tomorrow I will probably drink about 8-10Litres all day.
=====
Weight 147kg
Protocol - 1 BEastdrol + 1 Phreak [ changed the starting amt for week1]
Nutrition - 300p/525c/65f
TRAINING
========
Every 2nd, 3day cycle training is modified to new rep range, [5-7reps, 8-12reps then 8-10reps + decending sets, forced reps, & rest pause]
REP Range 5-7[Legs/Calfs]
====================
Overall a good workout[took it a bit easy for 1st real initial cycle workout]
eg.
==
Smith Squats 315lb - 5 good parallel reps
Stiff-leg deadlifts - 135lbs for 7 reps
Seated Calf Raises - 90lbs for 7 reps [ only started working calves 2 weeks ago after 5yrs]
20min regular cardio
DAY 3
=====
weight 146.5
diet 300c/300p/55c
...DA BEAST is kicking in [and in a good way]
Excellent workout, Biggest Pumps ever
eg.
===
Ezi Barbell Extensions - 55lbs - 7reps
Cheat Barbell Curls [yeh the same 1's that Branch tore his bicep doing
] - 90lbs - 5repsEzi Standing Forearm Reverse Curls - 65lbs - 5reps
15minsHIIT + 5mins cooldown [[ my HIIT heart rate is 143-147bpm]
Overall I am resting well on an excellent supplement regime for any future side effects and I feel the Forma from mR. supps is also leaning me out....wife commented on how my face looks a lot slimmer over past 2 days..yep I noticed my semi-moon face is dissappearing already and my upper body is looking drier as well. She asked me what the hell was in the Forma bottle and I told her not to worry as it was natural Primate Seminal Fluid, she shouted back, "ya mean monkey sperm".. I said 'yes', btw thats exactly what it looks like
I am taking pictures every week and will start posting them at the end of week 2 on MArch 12 [3 pictures should show some real progress - I hope
]DAY 4
=====
Will be 300p/125f/85c instead of 300p/25f/15c as I am adding 250g of dry roasted cashews spread over 6 meals.
either 30min premeal cardio OR fishing in 34C degree sun for 2-3hrs and NO cardio. my fishing is not old man style and requires constant moving & casting so burning 1000calories in the hot sun is not out of the question. Usually I drink 3 Litres water for the whole trip. I suspect tomorrow I will probably drink about 8-10Litres all day.
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Apconcen, you gotta be honest about your physique if you want real help and real results. i believe if you were 23% BF and 326 lbs, you wouldn't be on here asking for advice. you just totally contradicted your entire post....You should expect a little attitude from people on this website, their egos are bigger than their nut sac.....lol.....not that that's saying much....
Doesnt matter to me buddy, Even I dont believe I am 23% lol. My initial pictures are already with 3J. The new pictures will reveal all. I will update at least every other day and post 1st pictures on March 12th.
I will accept nothing short of a visible 4pack by the end of the cycle but at the same time I dont want to weigh in less than 136.5kg at the end of the 6 weeks and to ensure this I will monitor my diet like a hawk.
We will see.
I will accept nothing short of a visible 4pack by the end of the cycle but at the same time I dont want to weigh in less than 136.5kg at the end of the 6 weeks and to ensure this I will monitor my diet like a hawk.
We will see.
I havent had an update from Day 4 but so far so good, NO SIDES to report..yet at least. Nice strength increases and a semi-permanent pump.
From Saturday coming its 2Beast + 1 Phreak
DAY 8[TODAY]
=====
Weight 146kg
BodyFat - Calipers down to 31mm from 33mm converting to 28.1% bodyfat[accumeasure caliper chart]
Protocol - 1 BEastdrol + 1 Phreak
Nutrition - 300p/525c/65f
Notes: I had to reduce from USPlabs 3OEP/ PES 3Alpha T2 to........ 2/2 instead. I also had to drop the Yohimbine HCL. The Jitters especially with the Jack3D were too much. I also tried the cashews on No carb day but I will be dropping them as cashews, mango and dairy are 3 foods that bloat me up].
My No carb day will be back as of Saturday to ZERO carbs.
TRAINING
========
Training is modified is now cycled between[5-7reps and 8-12reps] focusing on Upper Chest and Calves]
REP Range 5-7[Upper Chest, Triceps, Calves]
=======================
Overall an excellent workout[no more taking it easy, I feel like a BEAST each workout]. Very Strong today
eg. today
========
Smith Incline Press - 315lb - 5 good reps
I am sure I will increase next workout
Incl Dumbell Flyes - 45lb - 7 reps
Tricep Dumbell Ext. - 45lb - 7 reps
15 HIIT cardio + 15min regular cardio
I also think my GDA Chromium Poly and Vanadyl are helping. NeedtoSlin arrives today so I should get those carbs straight to the muscle on next High & Lo carb day. I also use USP Labs - 1 Anabolic Pump and 1 Pslin per day. Water, Sleep and other supplements such as Liver supps, CoQ10 and Hawthorn are also in check. Blood Pressure and glucose test are all normal.
Overall I am still aiming for a 13mm caliper measure [16.8% body fat] by April 9 coming in at a weight of 136.5kg.
From Saturday coming its 2Beast + 1 Phreak
DAY 8[TODAY]
=====
Weight 146kg
BodyFat - Calipers down to 31mm from 33mm converting to 28.1% bodyfat[accumeasure caliper chart]
Protocol - 1 BEastdrol + 1 Phreak
Nutrition - 300p/525c/65f
Notes: I had to reduce from USPlabs 3OEP/ PES 3Alpha T2 to........ 2/2 instead. I also had to drop the Yohimbine HCL. The Jitters especially with the Jack3D were too much. I also tried the cashews on No carb day but I will be dropping them as cashews, mango and dairy are 3 foods that bloat me up].
My No carb day will be back as of Saturday to ZERO carbs.
TRAINING
========
Training is modified is now cycled between[5-7reps and 8-12reps] focusing on Upper Chest and Calves]
REP Range 5-7[Upper Chest, Triceps, Calves]
=======================
Overall an excellent workout[no more taking it easy, I feel like a BEAST each workout]. Very Strong today
eg. today
========
Smith Incline Press - 315lb - 5 good reps
I am sure I will increase next workout
Incl Dumbell Flyes - 45lb - 7 reps
Tricep Dumbell Ext. - 45lb - 7 reps
15 HIIT cardio + 15min regular cardio
I also think my GDA Chromium Poly and Vanadyl are helping. NeedtoSlin arrives today so I should get those carbs straight to the muscle on next High & Lo carb day. I also use USP Labs - 1 Anabolic Pump and 1 Pslin per day. Water, Sleep and other supplements such as Liver supps, CoQ10 and Hawthorn are also in check. Blood Pressure and glucose test are all normal.
Overall I am still aiming for a 13mm caliper measure [16.8% body fat] by April 9 coming in at a weight of 136.5kg.
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zedhed
New member
Hey apco here is my write up on N2slin and Forged burner from EF. I REALLY llike that combination!
This is the shit! This combination IS THE SHIT!
So many times you read the hype and go " yeah yeah yeah.....
But I gotta say guyz this is real, for real this is real.
My workouts were going downhill. I didnt have the juice, I was getting crushed. I called out to all of you good bros on here and you guyz said try stimulants.
Well that got me to thinking. And then I decided to ask needto for his thoughts.
Well he suggested needto Slin and Forger Burner.
All I can say is this stuff IS THE SHIT, it ROCKS!
Its almost too much but not quite. It is still "just" managable, still "just" controlable, BUT JUST BARELY!
The focus on this combination is almost painful. The intensity is unbelieveable. My workouts are a total SLAM on this combination.
There is no forcing myself at all. In fact now its hard for me to pull back and not beat myself into a heap.
Its like that moment when youre having sex. You know where youre just about to cum? Thats the feeling being on this combination. That feeling of intensity, that moment of clairity, that moment of lasered in precision.
Thats how I feel on this combination.
BIG THANKS OUT TO needto FOR THIS ONE!!
A total WINNER?1
This is the shit! This combination IS THE SHIT!
So many times you read the hype and go " yeah yeah yeah.....
But I gotta say guyz this is real, for real this is real.
My workouts were going downhill. I didnt have the juice, I was getting crushed. I called out to all of you good bros on here and you guyz said try stimulants.
Well that got me to thinking. And then I decided to ask needto for his thoughts.
Well he suggested needto Slin and Forger Burner.
All I can say is this stuff IS THE SHIT, it ROCKS!
Its almost too much but not quite. It is still "just" managable, still "just" controlable, BUT JUST BARELY!
The focus on this combination is almost painful. The intensity is unbelieveable. My workouts are a total SLAM on this combination.
There is no forcing myself at all. In fact now its hard for me to pull back and not beat myself into a heap.
Its like that moment when youre having sex. You know where youre just about to cum? Thats the feeling being on this combination. That feeling of intensity, that moment of clairity, that moment of lasered in precision.
Thats how I feel on this combination.
BIG THANKS OUT TO needto FOR THIS ONE!!
A total WINNER?1
hi zed
hi Zed,
Actually I dont need to but you can get all the information pertaining to pics in the thread.
================================
first week of the cycle ended yday. Actually I started 3 days early so its more like 10days.
Weight 145.5kg
Waist 131cm
BodyFat - Calipers down to 30mm
New Protocol - 2 BEastdrol + 1 Phreak
Almost ZERO SIDES but yday I uped dosage to 2 Beastdrol / 1 Phreak
This protocol will be run for the next 2 weeks.
All I can say is that I am as strong as an OX,todays workout had me doing 25 reps[knee to forehead] legPresses at 200kg/ 440lb and I could have gone on for more. Next leg workout I will be attempting 300-325kg for the 15reps I normally target. My long legs were taking it in stride.
Now here is my problem for the 45degree leg presses I dont use a belt or knee wraps BUT for squats I am having major joint issues. Being 6'5" doesnt help and I feel joint pain in my hips, upper leg joint/bone and of course knees. The knee wraps are a must[I cant squat without them though I warm up without them] and I use my powerlifting belt that provides great back support BUT the hip joint pain is now worse than ever. I was taking 2000mg of Primo Cissus and now I have switched to Need2Build Forged Joint Repair[3000mg of Cissus blend]. I am also taking 12000mg[12caps] of Fish Oil per day.
1) Any ideas on what I can do re the joint issues as I have 5 more weeks to go on this cycle ?
2) Does anyone have an opinion on bridging my cycle with Forma and 11KT[11oxo] spray for 4weeks after the initial week 6 cycle and then moving into traditional post cycle therapy (pct) for the next 4 weeks. During the bridge and post cycle therapy (pct)[8weeks] I would be aiming to further drop my bodyfat by a further 5-10% with the same carb cycling diet/increased cardio and supplements[Eviserate, OEP/ Alpha T2 and Yohimbine]
hi Zed,
Actually I dont need to
but you can get all the information pertaining to pics in the thread. ================================
first week of the cycle ended yday. Actually I started 3 days early so its more like 10days.
Weight 145.5kg
Waist 131cm
BodyFat - Calipers down to 30mm
New Protocol - 2 BEastdrol + 1 Phreak
Almost ZERO SIDES but yday I uped dosage to 2 Beastdrol / 1 Phreak
This protocol will be run for the next 2 weeks.
All I can say is that I am as strong as an OX,todays workout had me doing 25 reps[knee to forehead] legPresses at 200kg/ 440lb and I could have gone on for more. Next leg workout I will be attempting 300-325kg for the 15reps I normally target. My long legs were taking it in stride.
Now here is my problem for the 45degree leg presses I dont use a belt or knee wraps BUT for squats I am having major joint issues. Being 6'5" doesnt help and I feel joint pain in my hips, upper leg joint/bone and of course knees. The knee wraps are a must[I cant squat without them though I warm up without them] and I use my powerlifting belt that provides great back support BUT the hip joint pain is now worse than ever. I was taking 2000mg of Primo Cissus and now I have switched to Need2Build Forged Joint Repair[3000mg of Cissus blend]. I am also taking 12000mg[12caps] of Fish Oil per day.
1) Any ideas on what I can do re the joint issues as I have 5 more weeks to go on this cycle ?
2) Does anyone have an opinion on bridging my cycle with Forma and 11KT[11oxo] spray for 4weeks after the initial week 6 cycle and then moving into traditional post cycle therapy (pct) for the next 4 weeks. During the bridge and post cycle therapy (pct)[8weeks] I would be aiming to further drop my bodyfat by a further 5-10% with the same carb cycling diet/increased cardio and supplements[Eviserate, OEP/ Alpha T2 and Yohimbine]
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BiGnNasty
Bulking
hi Zed,
Actually I dont need to
================================
first week of the cycle ended yday. Actually I started 3 days early so its more like 10days.
Weight 145.5kg
Waist 131cm
BodyFat - Calipers down to 30mm
New Protocol - 2 BEastdrol + 1 Phreak
Almost ZERO SIDES but yday I uped dosage to 2 Beastdrol / 1 Phreak
This protocol will be run for the next 2 weeks.
All I can say is that I am as strong as an OX,todays workout had me doing 25 reps[knee to forehead] legPresses at 200kg/ 440lb and I could have gone on for more. Next leg workout I will be attempting 300-325kg for the 15reps I normally target. My long legs were taking it in stride.
Now here is my problem for the 45degree leg presses I dont use a belt or knee wraps BUT for squats I am having major joint issues. Being 6'5" doesnt help and I feel joint pain in my hips, upper leg joint/bone and of course knees. The knee wraps are a must[I cant squat without them though I warm up without them] and I use my powerlifting belt that provides great back support BUT the hip joint pain is now worse than ever. I was taking 2000mg of Primo Cissus and now I have switched to Need2Build Forged Joint Repair[3000mg of Cissus blend]. I am also taking 12000mg[12caps] of Fish Oil per day.
1) Any ideas on what I can do re the joint issues as I have 5 more weeks to go on this cycle ?
2) Does anyone have an opinion on bridging my cycle with Forma and 11KT[11oxo] spray for 4weeks after the initial week 6 cycle and then moving into traditional post cycle therapy (pct) for the next 4 weeks. During the bridge and post cycle therapy (pct)[8weeks] I would be aiming to further drop my bodyfat by a further 5-10% with the same carb cycling diet/increased cardio and supplements[Eviserate, OEP/ Alpha T2 and Yohimbine]
If u r having pain that intense then dont risk injury and let ur legs heal themselves. I say give them a week to fully recover. Ur form might not be that good either if u r having hip pain. Im a tall guy too 6'3. When u start back up go with a few warm up sets with lighter weight b4 moving into ur normal weight range. i start off with 135 x 15
225x8
315x5
405x10
thanks Big,
I cant even start with 135lbs... lol.
but I will follow your advice with more warm up sets and more stretching prior to my workout. I dont think my legs are injured as I feel no pain when leg pressing. I just think I may be a stiff, inflexible bag of knots plus being overweight for so long doesnt help either. I always feel less joint pain below 140kg. If only more fat people realize this
I'll do something like this..
stretching for 15mins
deeep leg press
100lb x 25
..... hips should be mostly warmed up
squat warm ups
50 x 5
100 x 5
150 x 5
75 x 15
worksets
--------
225 x 15
275 x 12
315 x 10
135 x 10-12 [free squats - no smith mach.]
rest of Leg work out
stretching for 15mins
the free squats should build up other stabliser/core muscles. the older I get is the more I realize how much being flexible is really important. This of course also ties into using the core free weight building exercises as well.
who can forget Ronnie stretching for 30mins ending in a full ballerina split after a leg workout that included 700-800lbs squats ...something most of us should 'aspire' to imo
I cant even start with 135lbs... lol.
but I will follow your advice with more warm up sets and more stretching prior to my workout. I dont think my legs are injured as I feel no pain when leg pressing. I just think I may be a stiff, inflexible bag of knots plus being overweight for so long doesnt help either. I always feel less joint pain below 140kg. If only more fat people realize this
I'll do something like this..
stretching for 15mins
deeep leg press
100lb x 25
..... hips should be mostly warmed up
squat warm ups
50 x 5
100 x 5
150 x 5
75 x 15
worksets
--------
225 x 15
275 x 12
315 x 10
135 x 10-12 [free squats - no smith mach.]
rest of Leg work out
stretching for 15mins
the free squats should build up other stabliser/core muscles. the older I get is the more I realize how much being flexible is really important. This of course also ties into using the core free weight building exercises as well.
who can forget Ronnie stretching for 30mins ending in a full ballerina split after a leg workout that included 700-800lbs squats ...something most of us should 'aspire' to imo
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