All Oral Cycle + T3

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commanderfb22

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160 lbs, 14% bodyfat, 5'10

Here's my cycle as of now:
1 30-40 mg/day (D-boll)
2 30-40 mg/day (D-boll)
3 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba)
4 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba) 5000 IU/week HCG
5 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba) 5000 IU/week HCG
6 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar)5000 IU/week HCG
7 25-50 mg every day (Stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar) 5000 IU/week HCG
8 25-50 mg every day (Stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar)
9 40 mg/day nolvadex
10 20 mg/day nolvadex
11 20 mg/day nolvadex

I'll also be adding in some T3, as above all, I'd like to have a hard body. When should the T3 come in? How can I take extra precaution to ensure there is no rebound beside tapering on and off -- which I already plan on doing? Seeing as I want to gain mass (160 is a bit light), but my main priority is to get cut, do you guys have any suggestions?
 
160 lbs, 14% bodyfat, 5'10

Here's my cycle as of now:
1 30-40 mg/day (D-boll)
2 30-40 mg/day (D-boll)
3 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba)
4 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba) 5000 IU/week HCG
5 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba) 5000 IU/week HCG
6 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar)5000 IU/week HCG
7 25-50 mg every day (Stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar) 5000 IU/week HCG
8 25-50 mg every day (Stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar)
9 40 mg/day nolvadex
10 20 mg/day nolvadex
11 20 mg/day nolvadex

I'll also be adding in some T3, as above all, I'd like to have a hard body. When should the T3 come in? How can I take extra precaution to ensure there is no rebound beside tapering on and off -- which I already plan on doing? Seeing as I want to gain mass (160 is a bit light), but my main priority is to get cut, do you guys have any suggestions?
 
Would this be your first cycle? Is the pic in your profile current?

If so, I think you would be better off running a bulk cycle for 10 weeks or so and THEN cutting. You probably have quite a bit of natural genetic room left, but if you are hell bent on doing a cycle (I understand), I'd do a low dose test only cycle with a very tight diet. You will look a lot better doing it in that order (instead of the alternative).
 
commanderfb22 said:
160 lbs, 14% bodyfat, 5'10

Here's my cycle as of now:
1 30-40 mg/day (D-boll)
2 30-40 mg/day (D-boll)
3 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba)
4 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba) 5000 IU/week HCG
5 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (Stromba) 5000 IU/week HCG
6 30-40 mg/day (D-boll) 25-50 mg/day (stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar)5000 IU/week HCG
7 25-50 mg every day (Stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar) 5000 IU/week HCG
8 25-50 mg every day (Stromba) 30-40 mg/day (Anavar)
9 40 mg/day nolvadex
10 20 mg/day nolvadex
11 20 mg/day nolvadex

I'll also be adding in some T3, as above all, I'd like to have a hard body. When should the T3 come in? How can I take extra precaution to ensure there is no rebound beside tapering on and off -- which I already plan on doing? Seeing as I want to gain mass (160 is a bit light), but my main priority is to get cut, do you guys have any suggestions?
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this is vary stupidly put together and unhealthy ok: 1) stromba is VARY harsh on liver lipids, joints and hair!! 2) 2 weeks of anavar is a compleat waste! 3) 5000 iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is STUPID and u could permanitly ruin your reap system/balls, only use 500-1000iu a week THATS IT!! 4) 6weeks of dbol is a lil much i wouldent go passed4 but it isnt to fuked.. man i almost thought this was a joke and dont get mad im flaming u others will too but i dont want u to hurt your self.. ok now most will say an all oral cycle isnt good and i myself dont think it is vary good BUT if u are going to do 1 u need to be kinder to yourself ..
now i dont think u should do an all oral but if u do atleast this will make some more sence and be a bit healthier.

wk 1-10 anavar 40mg a day +5-8g of creatine ed
wk1-11 ephedrin 10mgX2 a day=20mg +200mg caffienED "2weeks on 1 week off"
PCT wk10-13nolva 20mg

thats is it! and u dont need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and u know wut 5000 iu even only for 2 weeks could fuk u up for good. yes anavar is alot of $$$
now wut i say u do is read soem more and so a cycle with the pin u are not wanting to use but its safter and only hurt for 1 sec>shoot it!
testE 400mg wk1-10
nolva wk130mg w2-4 20mg and it will cost u less.

i have Winstrol (winny) and am reluctent to use it because of sides.

ill tell u right now if u do wut u have posted i feel sorry for u. pls man dont do it.

ps, i dont know about T3 i wont use it i dont want to fuk with my thiroid just use ephedrin and caffien for added fat loss. mixing al thes orals are vary toxic to your liver and stromba and dbol are harsh buythemselves but to gether is just not good. im trying not to be mean but if u have read and lernd wut u need to know u wouldent be thinking of this so even if u feel u know wut u are doing u dont and if u think im a know it all. u will see EVERY 1 ELS that is gona respond to u is going to tell u the same kind of thing . so step back keep an open mind and listin.. also this is your first cycle right????
 
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Yeah. This was actually a template I used that BigCat on BB suggested for an all oral stack. With what gear I have, knowing that I want to get cut and gain some mass, what do you suggest I do?
 
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i think

test 250mg wk1-13
deca 200mg wk1-12
stromba50mged wk11-16
pct wk16-20 nolva 30/20/20/20
hcg 250iu x2 a week last 5 weeks to right befor pct


ill give u more in a sec i gtg
 
Yea dude... my first cycle (if you can call it that) I ran was similar to this.
You really don't need all those anti-estrigens man... I would maybe use nolvadex for a week or two at the end if you felt like it.

Hit the gym hard and don't slow down after week 6. You don't have test so you HAVE to maintain your routine well after you discontinue dbol.
 
I'd focus on bulking up with the dbol and anavar and of course make sure you are getting plenty of good quality cals. Then run the Winstrol (winny) and T3 in a separate cut cycle...will help you keep your strength and get the definition you are hoping for. That's just my opinion though..take it with a grain of salt.
 
Bro, are you doing cardio as well? I noticed in your pic that most of the weight you do have in being carried around your waist. If I were you, I'd lose that first and then come back and do a cycle if you are hell bent on it. Also, you may want to try and gain some lean mass before starting a cycle. You aren't gonna get any results you want if you aren't doing some cardio to lose what you already have on your waist.
 
If you are 14% bodyfat at 160 pounds 5'10" you need to figure your diet out. Drugs will improve you a little, but as a temporary means - nothing will shred you without the proper diet.

Gear works best when you know what you are doing already and THEN add it in.
 
this is the worst advice EVER minus what SC and Mudge said.... you are the furthest thing from needing to cycle...

pack up your gear and send it to me
 
That was my next question SC. Judging by the picture, I'd have to say no. Commander, take the next 5-6 months getting your diet in order and hit the gym and get a plan into place. You'll be quite surprised at the results you achieve. Once you you've accomplished that, then you may be ready. I think you have some work to do first though bro. Don't do yourself a dis-service by jumping into gear and thinking it will be your savior. Mudge said it best "Gear works best when you know what you are doing already and THEN add it in."
 
Why all the egos are around here? The guy is obviously looking for help and all anyone can say is that's the worst advice, give me your gear? How about sending him in the right direction. Nobody wakes up a steroid guru like some of you people around here think. Everyone was not as informed at one time as they are now and some worse than others. Rather than bash the guy, isn't this place supposed to help? Commander, do some reading around here on diets, etc. Once you've got that down and a good plan into place and have accomplished all you can naturally, only then should you consider gear. Mudge really did have good advice saying "Gear works best when you know what you are doing already and THEN add it in."
 
I started out two years ago on football and what not and weighed about 160. Then I started to extreme diet and do cardio for the past two years and have managed to get down to 140, but with that 20 pounds I also lost a bunch of weight and looked like i did in the picture.

I started rippetoe's back in november and have been making gains but now my bench and squat won't go up. From BB.com, I was advised to cut the running since they though I started to look anorexic, but still was skinny fat. I'm up to 153 right now and I just can't seem to get my weights to go up and, although my diet was at 2400 cals and 200 grams a day. I just haven't seen any real results. I put on some muscle, yes, but I also put on some fat, especially the last couple weeks during finals when my diet was horrible. I'm actually 5'11 (not 5'10 as I mistakenly put earlier) and 153 pounds now, I'm benching 175 3 sets of 5, I'm squating 200 3 sets of 5, and deadlifting 210 3 sets of 5.
 
commanderfb22 said:
I started out two years ago on football and what not and weighed about 160. Then I started to extreme diet and do cardio for the past two years and have managed to get down to 140, but with that 20 pounds I also lost a bunch of weight and looked like i did in the picture.

I started rippetoe's back in november and have been making gains but now my bench and squat won't go up. From BB.com, I was advised to cut the running since they though I started to look anorexic, but still was skinny fat. I'm up to 153 right now and I just can't seem to get my weights to go up and, although my diet was at 2400 cals and 200 grams a day. I just haven't seen any real results. I put on some muscle, yes, but I also put on some fat, especially the last couple weeks during finals when my diet was horrible. I'm actually 5'11 (not 5'10 as I mistakenly put earlier) and 153 pounds now, I'm benching 175 3 sets of 5, I'm squating 200 3 sets of 5, and deadlifting 210 3 sets of 5.
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Are you currently maintaining that weight? You can add weight while doing cardio, you just gotta do it right. The cardio will at least help your waist stay thin while you put on weight elsewhere. 2400 calories seems quite low bro. You can probably gain another 30-40 lbs naturally I think. Have you tried weight gainers? Cytogainer is some good stuff. You can get a good start naturally and make some good gains yet. What is your goal? Add some calories and eat clean, do some cardio, lift hard and heavy and you'll gain. After you peak out, then you may want to think about gear. Gear won't do shit if you don't already have a good plan and base in place to build upon.
 
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