anavar only what to expect?

[DobieQueen]

People do Var only cycles all the time. Germans invented Turinabol to give to their olympic athletes so they could beat the U.S.

Using these by themselves work, and they have been proven to work. Some chick up there (and some dude agreed) earlier in this post said that if you use Var with no test it will fuck up your endocrine system. Well, that doesn't make any sense. Using any sort of exogenous hormones will stop endogenous production of your own. So their point is moot. If you decided to use test it would shut you down worse. I promise.

All of this being said, Var is a mild steroid (both in effects and shutdown), so your gains will not be massive, but they will most likely be lean, hard gains. I do not believe it is what you want, as even a little bit will shut you down, and you could easily achieve your goals with a diet change (someone even mentioned a good pre-workout/peptides, I would look into this, too). However, you will do what you will, regardless of what we tell you. If you decide to do it, just be safe, run it with liver support (mostly for peace of mind, and you never know how your own body will react) for 7-8 weeks. Start at at least 50mg, 50-75mg seems to be the sweet spot, so find yours and stick with it.

Good luck.

as you said above, everyone has their experiences... he needs to read posts, do his research.. and I don't mean research that has been done in a lab on rats... not the same thing... people's experiences are way more reliable than anything you may read from "research"... we aren't lab rats! And those indicated athletes, how do you know they weren't given other things too.... this forum is a trusty source to find out true and tested info and recommendations... I am sure at least 90% of male members will agree with not running var alone... unless you are a chick like me.... just sayin

do your research, spend some time and read... learn more.... there are tons of posts and information on here from members that will give it to you straight up be safe.... period.... I've spent hours reading about it all.... but do as you please....

and agreed.... var will lean you out, harden and increase your strength as well.... this isn't used for mass building....

good luck

 

[DobieQueen]

oh and I forgot to mention.... YES definatelly! YOUR DIET is key! It may be all you need before you play with big boy toys.... so make sure you save your money and get that in check before you start anything.... and be prepared.... plus hard work and determination pays off... so work hard and stay focused on the goal!

 

[SlamSpunk]

thanks for the comments guys. better than the usual "slam some test in" posts lmao. Nice to know people realise why i want to take anavar which is to get okay gain and next to no sides yea my diet is okay atm im gna run my cycle in abiut 2 weeks so my diet should be on track by then

 

[MustangDX]

People do Var only cycles all the time. Germans invented Turinabol to give to their olympic athletes so they could beat the U.S.

Using these by themselves work, and they have been proven to work. Some chick up there (and some dude agreed) earlier in this post said that if you use Var with no test it will fuck up your endocrine system. Well, that doesn't make any sense. Using any sort of exogenous hormones will stop endogenous production of your own. So their point is moot. If you decided to use test it would shut you down worse. I promise.

All of this being said, Var is a mild steroid (both in effects and shutdown), so your gains will not be massive, but they will most likely be lean, hard gains. I do not believe it is what you want, as even a little bit will shut you down, and you could easily achieve your goals with a diet change (someone even mentioned a good pre-workout/peptides, I would look into this, too). However, you will do what you will, regardless of what we tell you. If you decide to do it, just be safe, run it with liver support (mostly for peace of mind, and you never know how your own body will react) for 7-8 weeks. Start at at least 50mg, 50-75mg seems to be the sweet spot, so find yours and stick with it.

Good luck.

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[DobieQueen]

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[SlamSpunk]

@dobie the reason i want to do var is because of these forums the men that have actually run it say its awesome its the people who have the preperceptions of it that spread the possible but unlikely effects of it. Its like how coke can make you obese cause its all sugar and sugar makes you fat but skinny people drink coke doesnt mean they will get fat, if you get what im saying.

 

[DobieQueen]

@dobie the reason i want to do var is because of these forums the men that have actually run it say its awesome its the people who have the preperceptions of it that spread the possible but unlikely effects of it. Its like how coke can make you obese cause its all sugar and sugar makes you fat but skinny people drink coke doesnt mean they will get fat, if you get what im saying.

I agree...to a point....you can't compare apples to oranges....men's and women's chemistry is totally different... that's why var is safer for women.... don't get me wrong - VAR is amazing! Eventhough I am a girl but I ran var and I love the results it gives and i personally had no sides and used the maximum dose (20mg/day) for women ... you get hard, lean and defined with these goodies....no question! plus with the clean proper diet - it's incredible cutting/hardening agent!

BUT it's different with men... you need the test with it.... there is no point you waste 8 weeks of var and so much $$$ for the gains to disapear right away as soon as you stop the cycle.... and besides that... there are men on here that did it alone, of course... lots have done it! I've read many of thier posts and they wish they listened to advice when given... We all experiment but a lot of those dudes are on pernament test replacement therapy for the rest of their lives because they did cycles that aren't meant to run alone like women would.... TEST is your friend... that alone will increase your strenght and also give you the gains you want.... running them together, maybe with a little tren that guys love so much and you got one potent cycle you will love but do it right just sayin

 

[juced_porkchop]

i wont be dissapointed because im not a steroid user. I just want a little boost more so in my workouts. My logic is ive always used over the counter supplements and even though var is a weak steroid it will be a kick ass supplement.
Thank bhrees will take note

you sound like a little kid, go do what you want. you are not here to listen so why post...

a boost? not as steroid user? beefcakes saying so and so? you head is on wrong and you are not going to listen.

so i know a guy that used to do heroin and he is alive still and kicked it... should i do it? i knowmany that have drunk and drove and they are alive and well.... get my point? do you know how childesh it sounds to say y friends do it and there ok and to even believe you know better from a few people that also dont know what they are doing?
you sound like a highschool kid.

dont follow your friends, your are clueless on this stuff and want to believe you know better or your firends do.. dont let that hurt you. listen to us or just stop posting and wasting out time..


also a PCT is AFTEr a cycle hens: Post Cycle Therapy

you need a test base period. if you want a boost go get creatine.

how old are you?

 

[SlamSpunk]

I dont understan how what im saying isnt clear.. Every tgread I have read about people doin anavar only cycles every video on personal expiereince every person I know who have done anavar only have had great results without test.Yes i want a boost in strength without bloat and keep most of my gains this is what anavar is good for so why wouldnt i be interested in it. I have read test results on humans with little to no test reduction everyone is telling me to be safe and use test for better gains but they are not the gains I want. I was lean gains all you are basically saying is that var is useless if your telling me to use test because it defeats the purpose of lean gains if you want to bloat and retain water. Do a quik google search and you will see hundreds of anavar only thread with people who have good results. And your comment about heroin is irrelevant i could just as easily say i have read about people takin test and they cant get hard post cycle. Thus is why i chose a mild steroid with lean gains. I dont see where your science comes into it taking test will give me better bloat maybe slightly better lean after pct but at a much higher risk in the long run. Am I wrong..??

 

[riprockwell]

Juiced pretty much summed everything. I don't see why people start threads on here and then ignore all advice. People act like they are invincible and that nothing bad will ever happen to them. What also cracks me up is when someone posts that so and so run a var only cycle and they are fine. How the fuck do you know they are fine?? Do they have blood work you can post up to show me their labs to show me they are fine?? Remember, there is a very fine line between feeling bad and dying. Could you run var only and get some decent results on it? Maybe. The funny part of this whole thing is that you are just looking for a boost. There are plenty of other safe compounds to use that can give you a boost. I guarantee you that if you hit up 3J in the diet section and invested your money with him, you would look a million times better than you currently do with just food alone.

However, you will ignore all advice and possibly end up fucking up your endocrine system or starting a new thread freaking out because your dick can't get hard anymore. You got great advice from people who have been in this game for a long time, myself included. Choose to ignore it and YOU will have to deal with the consequences. And just so you know, there is a shitload of guys on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) because of decisions like you are making (myself included) that have to inject test the rest of our lives to feel good. So don't act like all your friends are fine. If your friends did blood work before anavar, during, and a few months after anavar and have those results, I would love to see them. That is how I indicate recovery, not by broscience!! And you say that test doesn't give you the results you want?? You realize guys cut or bulk on test all the time right?? It has to do with diet. Bloat comes from sodium intake, diet, and estrogen control. Bloat is completely controllable. You obviously don't understand how any of this works. Good luck.

 

[SlamSpunk]

if i was using a stronger compound then i agree id use test but i chose a mild one to avoid using it. I dont want to look like i use steroids and if all you can say is "dont use them then" thats a ridiculously naive thing to say because most people who use them are bulking then leaning since i have no interest in getting that big why would i bulk? and if you say " if you dont want to get big dont use steroids" simply because i want lean gains increased strength faster than i would get from over advertised over rated over the counter supplements. Its like sayin why bulk on steroids when you could use weight gainer protein, because its faster. Seems simple to me.

 

[riprockwell]

if i was using a stronger compound then i agree id use test but i chose a mild one to avoid using it. I dont want to look like i use steroids and if all you can say is "dont use them then" thats a ridiculously naive thing to say because most people who use them are bulking then leaning since i have no interest in getting that big why would i bulk? and if you say " if you dont want to get big dont use steroids" simply because i want lean gains increased strength faster than i would get from over advertised over rated over the counter supplements. Its like sayin why bulk on steroids when you could use weight gainer protein, because its faster. Seems simple to me.

Think of this logically. Var will shut you down. Test will shut you down. If you are taking exogenous test, at least your dick will work and then when you get off, you will PCT and hope that you recover. So you not taking test is retarded just from that standpoint alone. What do you consider a mild steroid?? Var?? Well, var still inhibits your natural test production. Again, you have to understand, some guys never recover and they have no clue they have low Test levels. So again, just because there are tons of people doing it doesn't mean it makes sense. A lot of people have run DNP, myself included and 90% of the people out there will tell you it is retarded and dangerous to take. They say that for a reason. I should have listened but I was hard-headed like you. You say that you don't want to get big?? Think about it. How much muscle do you think you will add with a testosterone cycle?? You act like you will put on 50 fucking pounds of it. I know guys who have taken testosterone and haven't gained a thing. Again, it all goes back to diet and training and you are ignoring that fact. Some guys think test will make them gain 20lbs of muscle on one cycle. Do the math, if they cycled 3 times per year, that would be they would have 60lbs of muscle?? They would be lucky to put on 5lbs of muscle. Trust me. What are your stats by the way?? Height, weight, years lifting, etc??

 

[SlamSpunk]

ok again if test isnt all its cracked out to bewhy take it so my libido is better on my cycle but potentially destroyed after it? the way i see it with anavar being mild the long term affects wont half as bad as it would be if i was to use test aswell. I have high natural test so i figured with anavar and after pct maybe its dropped slightly but why would i want to risk it dropping alot more by adding test when i dont want any of the benefits from taking it??

 

[SlamSpunk]

im not being hard heded im just failing to see the logic the only comment im getting is "use test" but with everything Ive said in mind can someone explain what the benefits would be. Without using meaningless trolls.

 

[DobieQueen]

ya you are being very stubborn and almost a know it all... if your friends did it, you read EVERYTHING there is to know about it then why are you wasting your time and people's time that are trying to help you and you have a come back for everything they say... these guys know... and just as riprockwell said... he's been there along with tons of other dudes.... dont ask for advice if you aren't willing to listen.... stick to diet... it will lean you out if you keep it clean and proper....

and no I am not a chick on roids to get huge because I am just a healthy individual that chooses to use "supplements" to help me look/feel better and make the most of my workouts.... so don't say they make you huge... they can but they don't have to.... there are tons of fitness models that use all kinds to lean, trim, harden their bodies for photoshoots, or competitions, etc.... so don't be throwing that old stereotype around as you obviously have no idea.... and don't play with big boy toys, you obviously aren't ready for it!

 

[DobieQueen]

oh we still don't know your stats????

 

[alfalion]

I'm new to this but I would listen .. you have someone telling u he made the same mistake . why would you not listen ... I surprised that the older members ever replied the second time .. take good advice when it's given. no disrespect but common bro REALLY

 

[SlamSpunk]

Ok but still You're all still saying just take TEST but I'm just wondering why, its almost like no one likes being confronted you have all just read "do test" so much its just on loop without actually knowing why I should do it with a mild compound. Makes no sense to me and until someone can give me a valid reason I wont take an extra compound that I don't want to take. You can say I'm being stubborn well why wouldnt I be Taking test could damage my Test levels alot more than a mild oral so why wouldn't I be extremely weary about what I put into my body.
Instead of just spamming that im stubborn or dont listen why not tell me why I need test. Then I'll be happy.

 

[SlamSpunk]

Im 21 5"11 182 pounds and I have high natural test.

 

[GoPro]

And why are you running Anavar only? And in some test e or prop. You use the anavar to keep the gains.