Anavar to Kick Start a cycle

[FormerFatty]

Guys I see the most common kick start seams to be Dbol. But if someone wanted to use an oral as a kick start until the Test E kicks in can they use Anavar (var) ? I see most guys seem to run Anavar (var) at the end of the cycle. Any reason why?

 

[Jack Tors]

Anavar will harden you up not really made for a bulk or kickstarter. Its good at the end weeks of a cycle to keep shit tight when the test is at its peak. I also want to be clear on this test works from day 1.

I have been thinking a lot about the kick starting theory. The way i see it is the notion of kick starting a cycle is somewhat of a myth and uneccessary. It was dreamed up by bb'ders to push the envelope and maximize or justify oral steroid use. "your taking steroids anyway so lets take more because more is better." The average gym rat doesnt need to do this. I think ppl should know that. Its really the period of time before the slow ester test has completely built up in the system and peaked sometimes 6 weeks. for the non-pro athelete or bblder you can be patient and wait.

 

[rds63799]

i've done an anavar kickstart and it was great. Gave me pretty much instant strength gains to do me til the test kicked in.

it was recommended to me by Zeek who's one of the most experienced on the board.

Basically I just do whatever Zeek tells me. It's worked out pretty well so far...

 

[Santaklaus]

That's interesting to me... I usually start a cycle with faster acting test(susp/prop) and incorporate the var/winny a few weeks after. I never thought of Anavar as instant strength but more so as a way of keeping up my strength as I cut. Meaning at the end of cycle as I wind out the test hardening my gains up... Then again, if Zeek suggested it, I should try it.. He knows a hell of a lot more than I do..

 

[MuscleMind]

If you want to use anavar for a kickstart go ahead. It will increase strength and hardness. You will notice its effects within a week. Its worth it in my opinion. Make sure you do cardio also. If you really want to "blow up" then using dianabol at the begining of the cycle is probably a better choice.

 

[FormerFatty]

Thanks guys, the blow up is what I wanted to avoid, but still get a bit of instant gratification while the test kits in. I have to keep my bloat always monitored, yes I know some bloat gives you strength gains, and yes I could be hindering my cycle a bit but in an office environment you really don't need people noticing the fact you gained 10 pounds of water weight in 6 days. ;-) Which for some reason just shows up in my face. Thanks for the info guys, and if zeek says it I am down. That will be my next cycle.

 

[pirovoliko]

if using Anavar (var) to kickstart, how long and what dose and frequency?

If using Anavar (var) at the end of cycle (say a twelve week test cycle), when do you begin and at what dose and frequency? do you extend the Anavar (var) past the 12th week?

 

[crazyfmike]

I am running Anavar (var) in front and like it allot. I've never been a "blow up guy" so the subtle effects from Anavar (var) are nice until the Test and Primo kick in full.

 

[Four1Thr33]

Ya go for it bro. I'll be trying Anavar (var) soon my self But at the end of my tren run

 

[FormerFatty]

I am running Anavar (var) in front and like it allot. I've never been a "blow up guy" so the subtle effects from Anavar (var) are nice until the Test and Primo kick in full.

Awesome thanks mike

 

[Jacked27]

Since I didn't get mine for the start of this Test E cycle, I'm going to run Anavar (var) last 8 weeks of a 20 weeker. Cant wait.

 

[FormerFatty]

Nice what ere your goals on the 20 weeker? Cuting or just adding some lean muscle. If thats you in your avatar doesn't look like you are a fan of the big dirty bulk. I am guessing you try to stay pretty lean most of your cycle.

 

[Jack Tors]

if it we me i'd kick start with tbol or dbol and save the Anavar (var) for the finish. please let us know how it goes b/c I have Anavar (var) for my next run. if it works out well then ill try it too

 

[Jacked27]

Nice what ere your goals on the 20 weeker? Cuting or just adding some lean muscle. If thats you in your avatar doesn't look like you are a fan of the big dirty bulk. I am guessing you try to stay pretty lean most of your cycle.

Goals? I'm 225 and 13-14% now, would like to stay in the mid 220's and finish at 8-9%. A recomp/clean bulk.

I am also not doing Test E at high levels, high 300's per week (mg's). Got that good PEA stuff so I should respon well to it (only 2nd cycle too).

Want to try the Anavar (var) at 25 or 50 mg a day for the last 2 months (figure now is a good time as I'll have 12 weeks Test built up by then, so it should add a final kick).

I'm 32 years old, too old to be bulky IMO, much rather be lean and kinda big then just "big."

What are your goals?

 

[Repo]

Here's my recommendation...

Ana Anavar (var) is a "Class I" steroid - and is most effective when stacked with a "Class II" compound such as Dbol.

The bad thing is you will be breaking the - only 1 oral rule ...

... "except you don't need to run them as high to get the synergy of the two."

I like Anavar (var) at 50 and Dbol at 30 - which gives me the best of both worlds - without all the bad sides of running Dbol at a higher dose.

 

[FormerFatty]

Goals? I'm 225 and 13-14% now, would like to stay in the mid 220's and finish at 8-9%. A recomp/clean bulk.

I am also not doing Test E at high levels, high 300's per week (mg's). Got that good PEA stuff so I should respon well to it (only 2nd cycle too).

Want to try the Anavar (var) at 25 or 50 mg a day for the last 2 months (figure now is a good time as I'll have 12 weeks Test built up by then, so it should add a final kick).

I'm 32 years old, too old to be bulky IMO, much rather be lean and kinda big then just "big."

What are your goals?

Our stats are almost the same, I'm 32 5'11 I hover at 200 - 215 depending if I am heading into a BJJ tournament. One time drop into the 190 weight class but I didnt handle the cut correctly and lost muscle boo live and learn.

Goals are recomping my body more than bulking same like you, not saying I am immune to being motivated in improving my beach body, just saying it isnt my number 1 goal.

I keep my reps in the 15 and 20 range, I find it keeps my muscle stamina higher which helps in my wrestling endurance. Every 3rd week I do a traditional 10-8-6-4 increase weight pyramid on exercise

Right now I am heading into week 4 of my first Test E only 500 cycle. Super happy. So far. Haven t hit beast mode yet, I figure another 2 weeks , but huge increase in my energy and I can feel the recovery getting noticeably better

 

[josh223]

I kick started my cycle with Anavar (var) this time. Someone gave me 50 Anavar (var) pills at 50mg each!!!

My cycle Test EQ Anavar (var) is going great. I am in the middle of week 3 now and have gained 11 pounds so far. I am extremely vascular already and added a plate and a 25 to my squats and all my other lifts have gone up as well.

I am enjoying kicking my cycle with Anavar (var) . I also look more lean and my abs are sticking out even more and the fat on my stomach is going away. Anavar (var) is good stuff. I still consider dbol my overall favorite steroid but unlike dbol, I have no side effects from the Anavar (var) .

 

[josh223]

Here's my recommendation...

Ana Anavar (var) is a "Class I" steroid - and is most effective when stacked with a "Class II" compound such as Dbol.

The bad thing is you will be breaking the - only 1 oral rule ...

... "except you don't need to run them as high to get the synergy of the two."

I like Anavar (var) at 50 and Dbol at 30 - which gives me the best of both worlds - without all the bad sides of running Dbol at a higher dose.

Wow this sounds like an amazing stack!!! Dbol gives me GREAT results makes me feel like a god and look like one too!! I dont get bloating from dbol it increases my appetite and also boosts my confidence.

Anavar (var) makes me super lean, and strong as hell!! also no water retention. It also causes severe back pumps.

The only things I'd be worried about is back pumps and Blood Pressure. I Like to run Anavar (var) at 100mgs, and I like to run Dbol at 40-60mgs so I will try to do 30mg dbol 50 Anavar (var) for a few weeks once my dbol gets here!!

I'm excited!

 

[Harnold]

220

jacked, if you're 220 or 225 in that photo at that body fat level, you must either have big fcking legs or you must be tall. that's pretty good weight to carry at that bodyfat...good job.

 

[Harnold]

Repo,
you mentioned Anavar (var) and D-BOL AT 30MG(d-bol) I usually go a little higher on the D-BOL dosage, but do you find you get the moon face or does the Anavar (var) balance it out? I assume you know what I mean by moon face, as most know exactly what I mean...lol