to doitforyou , is yours also bd ? did you taste it and see if there was an odor or a specific taste ? ive been training off and on for like 15 yrs just been real serious and dedicated the last 4 im already a good sized dude im 5'9" 228lbs w about 14 % bf so its a lil hard to notice some results on me as opposed to someone who just started w the gym and the sauce im just a lil skeptic about this stuff because of all the chatter ive seen other types of test , sustanon etc and they all seem to have a base ingrediant list such as the oleate and the benzo alcohol for which the andropen has neither nor a smell which makes me a lil suspect of it ...been 10yrs since ive done a cycle i was wondering how long has is been or should i say what week are you on and when did you start to notice the effects of your gear ? im in week 5 now and i dont feel as if im getting much effects yet , i know most people say it takes like 4-6 weeks for the andropen to kick in but when i did test before i did dbol cycles and the dbol kickstarted the cycle way so much faster as what im seeing right now ? any advice on this ? did i get scammed w some fake sunflower oil in a bottle ?