Been on too long

[Littleguy21]

and i never said hed die. BUT high blood pressure and bad cholesterol is unhealthy for ur heart! sooooo by the transitive property steroids damage ur heart especially if done irresponsibly (year round cycles) but if done responsibly like mostly everyone on here its not really gonna effect u. sure ur cholestrol might b terible but if ur taking breakis in between and not mega doses it will level out. so suck on dem apples
lol

 

[Littleguy21]

Gotcha, and you googled it. That makes it a good article?

what did i google mutant boy? im saying from experience ik many ppl that juice and there bp and cholesterol gets fucked up on cycle. fact. IM NOT ANTI STEROIDS! im just saying that running a fucking cycle YEAR ROUND would put a strain on ur heart because of having bad cholestrol and blood pressure YEAR ROUND! the guy in the link u posted said for a fact they fuck ur bp and cholesterol up and he was defending roids!

 

[Littleguy21]

Too much cholesterol in the blood, or high blood cholesterol, can be serious. People with high blood cholesterol have a greater chance of getting heart disease. High blood cholesterol on its own does not cause symptoms, so many people are unaware that their cholesterol level is too high.

Cholesterol can build up in the walls of your arteries (blood vessels that carry blood from the heart to other parts of the body). This buildup of cholesterol is called plaque (plak). Over time, plaque can cause narrowing of the arteries. This is called atherosclerosis (ath-er-o-skler-O-sis), or hardening of the arteries.

Special arteries, called coronary arteries, bring blood to the heart. Narrowing of your coronary arteries due to plaque can stop or slow down the flow of blood to your heart. When the arteries narrow, the amount of oxygen-rich blood is decreased. This is called coronary heart disease (CHD). Large plaque areas can lead to chest pain called angina (an-JI-nuh or AN-juh-nuh). Angina happens when the heart does not receive enough oxygen-rich blood. Angina is a common symptom of CHD.

Lowering your cholesterol level decreases your chance for having a plaque burst and cause a heart attack. Lowering cholesterol may also slow down, reduce, or even stop plaque from building up.

this was not a post made from anything to do with steroids. strictly high cholesterol. so there was no reason to lie about its affects on the hearts. there u have it.

 

[Littleguy21]

Funny, steroids supposedly fucked up your dad yet youre still going to do them.

dood uve been on my ass all day. IK UR A BIG BADASS MODERATOR! back off. my johnson.
everything ive said had some facts behind it.

 

[rocko419]

Sorry littleguy these were your words not Estrays...
Well ik my father got fucked from jucing. And he did 3 cycles responsibly.[/B]
If that were totaly true and totaly caused by aas which you obviously beleave then why the HELL would you ever do a cycle? And your words again
but if done responsibly like mostly everyone on here its not really gonna effect u. That's A contradiction your saying 2 different things so which freaking one is it bro? Pick a story and stick with it will you please. Again like a past post you posted in please talk FACT and not your (i don't know what the hell I'm talking about opinion)Please bro....
And 1 more thing bro if you don't think these PRO BB stay on all year round or pretty dam close to it then your a little naive. And how many pro BB deaths were reported in the last 5 or 10 years cuzz of steroids. And yes we would have heard about it.. But that’s ok bro a little naive isn’t a bad thing I'm sure your a nice guy you just again need to learn when to post and when not to post....
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[Littleguy21]

Sorry littleguy these were your words not Estrays...
Well ik my father got fucked from jucing. And he did 3 cycles responsibly.[/B]
If that were totaly true and totaly caused by aas which you obviously beleave then why the HELL would you ever do a cycle? And your words again
but if done responsibly like mostly everyone on here its not really gonna effect u. That's A contradiction your saying 2 different things so which freaking one is it bro? Pick a story and stick with it will you please. Again like a past post you posted in please talk FACT and not your (i don't know what the hell I'm talking about opinion)Please bro....
And 1 more thing bro if you don't think these PRO BB stay on all year round or pretty dam close to it then your a little naive. And how many pro BB deaths were reported in the last 5 or 10 years cuzz of steroids. And yes we would have heard about it.. But that’s ok bro a little naive isn’t a bad thing I'm sure your a nice guy you just again need to learn when to post and when not to post....
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BECAUSE IM NOT MY FUCKING FATHER ASSHOLE!
and buddy, ive present all the info necesarry prove my point, did i say it would kill anybody? did i say it could cause heart problems related to high cholesterols effect on the heart and high bp, yes, this is ridiculous, u guys r just trying to bring justice to your addiction, yes there are many myths about the dangers of steroids, but heart problems IN MY FUCKING OPPINION, is not one of them. :

ya feel me?

 

[Lousy_Bastard]

That would be good if he would be doing it from the start.

If i do end of cycle hcg, i would like to do a 1500iu and after 2 days, 1500iu again, and then go to 250-500iu e3d. Using more then 500iu at a time will give u alot of aromatizing in the testes so you migth wanna use nolva or something to combat that. But you do need a good kickstart tho! This works great for me but longest iwe been is about 16weeks.

Like Mikea said start a high dose cos your cycle was so long then taper it down,

Then after that id personally do
500iu twice a week.

 

[Lousy_Bastard]

And how many pro BB deaths were reported in the last 5 or 10 years cuzz of steroids.

According to bigger stronger faster 3 ppl and they are not completely certain that was the problem but like all media and goverments it suits their proaganda.

 

[Bast]

Hey bast i know this happened to a close friend of mine.Never really looked into it cause i would never think of staying on for that long. let it go! no need to stay on AS that long. Why did you stay on ? just wondering

You dont know as you didnt even take any tests, as steroids do NOT affect the heart.

Also, littleguy says all this happend to his father and it's probably his dad just trying to put a scare in him.

I was on for that long because I compete in national competitions. The only bad thing that could happen (as I monitor and only use low doses) would be my own test levels getting fucked up, and if so its time for TRT.
Funny how people get testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) when it is so bad, huh

 

[zephyrdaz]

Is tuis serious? Ive never heard of year round test... Don't the gains subside and ur body get used to that dose fairly quickly? I have a weird feeling about this

Mate you seem to offen comment on subjects you have no knowledge of or experience of. I find that dangerous IMO

As to being on gear all year round or longer, what about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) as just one example? you telling me all the men on it are fucked, even though it prescibed by a doctor?

I'm on gear all year round and have my bloods checked regularly, I have no problems and I know plenty of other people who have been on high doses of gear constantly for years and they have no problems either.

 

[rocko419]

BECAUSE IM NOT MY FUCKING FATHER ASSHOLE!
and buddy, ive present all the info necesarry prove my point, did i say it would kill anybody? did i say it could cause heart problems related to high cholesterols effect on the heart and high bp, yes, this is ridiculous, u guys r just trying to bring justice to your addiction, yes there are many myths about the dangers of steroids, but heart problems IN MY FUCKING OPPINION, is not one of them. :

ya feel me?

Hey bro Don't get mad at me cuzz you cant take a stand and stick to it. No matter what you say you still contradicted your self. #2 What were you saying about rage? And #3
I take it you don’t think it’s fun when getting fucked with? Now really did you have to call me an ASSHOLE and in caps nun the less? Boy I take back what I said maybe your not a nice guy….

 

[rocko419]

BECAUSE IM NOT MY FUCKING FATHER ASSHOLE!
and buddy, ive present all the info necesarry prove my point, did i say it would kill anybody? did i say it could cause heart problems related to high cholesterols effect on the heart and high bp, yes, this is ridiculous, u guys r just trying to bring justice to your addiction, yes there are many myths about the dangers of steroids, but heart problems IN MY FUCKING OPPINION, is not one of them.

Now wait there you go again you still can't make up your mind. One time you say steroid use can cause hart issues and then you say in your opinion it does not. WHICH ONE IS IT.....DAM You don't know what the hell you believe in. You just talk and talk with no regard in really making any sense what’s so ever...You are Dangerous buddy...

 

[Boosted521]

Well ik my father got fucked from jucing. And he did 3 cycles responsibly.
Healthy cholesterol was at like 5. Trashed his heart. And his third cycle threw in dbol and FUCKED his liver. Ik these horror stories are far and in between but they still exist. And years of consistant use..... I just do t find that to b safe at all. Just my opponion. But dotbwory I'm not anti steroids at all. I plan to start my first cycle very soon

x

 

[zephyrdaz]

Been on for a year and have not run no hcg, so I have no nuts. Been running test at 450mg a week and Eq at 5oomg a week. I have 30,000 units of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and plan on comeing off in about 10 weeks from now. Does anyone have any suggestions on what amount I should run. I also have nolv and clom, Should I use a large amount of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) now or just start with 250 every 3 days.


Also my bottles of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) come in 10,000 units, how many cc of Ba water should I add to the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder?

Should I wait till the end to start anything?

Ozzy, you got a copy of that article on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) you posted a couple of weeks ago? it says in the how to work out the dosage for a kickstart I think

 

[rocko419]

sorry but your father had pre-existing heart problems. his heart would have been "trashed" without steroids. and using dbol on one cycle will not fuck his liver, again, pre-existing liver problems.. and all blamed on juice.

and btw, i've read a few of your posts lately, you need to read more and post less. you're very ignorant in the matter, no disrespect intended.

Lol..Well said Boost...I hope your feelings don't get hurt easy cuzz he's probably going to call you an ass hole...He does that when guys call him out on his shit....He gets very defensive...

 

[estray]

BECAUSE IM NOT MY FUCKING FATHER ASSHOLE!
and buddy, ive present all the info necesarry prove my point, did i say it would kill anybody? did i say it could cause heart problems related to high cholesterols effect on the heart and high bp, yes, this is ridiculous, u guys r just trying to bring justice to your addiction, yes there are many myths about the dangers of steroids, but heart problems IN MY FUCKING OPPINION, is not one of them. :

ya feel me?

Actually, you are. You have his genes and are likely predisposed to the same heart problems as him.

 

[dialtone]

i know many, many guys that are on year round and are in pristine condition. of course they never run orals. one of the guys that used to lift at my gym just got his pro card and was on the cover of muscular development a couple months ago and he simply runs 10 wks of test stacked with one other compound and just switches the other compounds every ten weeks. he's only 28 and of course, he is a pro.

 

[Ozzy27]

Well ik my father got fucked from jucing. And he did 3 cycles responsibly.
Healthy cholesterol was at like 5. Trashed his heart. And his third cycle threw in dbol and FUCKED his liver. Ik these horror stories are far and in between but they still exist. And years of consistant use..... I just do t find that to b safe at all. Just my opponion. But dotbwory I'm not anti steroids at all. I plan to start my first cycle very soon

You make NO sense bro! You should read and research more before giving ANY advice.
You mean to tell me your Dad got that fucked up from 3 cycles?? BULLSHIT!! He had other issues at hand...try being honest and realistic fool.....or should I say tool

 

[Littleguy21]

,[/U][/B] yes there are many myths about the dangers of steroids, but heart problems IN MY FUCKING OPPINION, is not one of them.

Now wait there you go again you still can't make up your mind. One time you say steroid use can cause hart issues and then you say in your opinion it does not. WHICH ONE IS IT.....DAM You don't know what the hell you believe in. You just talk and talk with no regard in really making any sense what’s so ever...You arebuddy...[/QUOTE]

Actually if u can read it says heart poblems by steroids I not a myth. Such is what I've said from the strt. So how am I contradicting myself? U guys are ignorant. Read tv post mutant boy put on this thread the vid on YouTube. The guy defending roids says roids do cause high cholesterol and bp.
How can u deny that having high bp and holesterol year round could hurt ur heart?
High cholesterol as I stated earlier FROM FACT leads to heart disease. And blocks ur arterys that bring blood to and from ur heart.
Why did all of u avoid that post? Maybe because ur in denial an trying to defend ur addiction?
And for my other posts I made one! About testosterone in women! Which I also had science behind my post.
But I forgot steroid users r above science my bad

 

[Bast]

Eating bad foods will also give you that... So begin to say this then: EATING FUCKED UP MY DADS HEART..... ?

High BP yes, but if youre not a complete moron you do check yourself and then high BP will never be an issue.

Not meaning to flame you, but you seriously need to gather information before speaking.