Been on too long

[FuckOprah]

ns, whats your stand on running milk thistle while on say dbol? i've heard guys run tbol + var for 10weeks leading upto a comp w/ milk thistle.

 

[gymlion77]

Not to be repetitive if it has been stated already but....."time on equals time off". Knowledge is power. My opinion is that its like anything else moderation is the key. Anything taken to the limit and too any extreme is going to cause consequences. There is a big difference between knowing how to do something,... and doing it the right way. Don't you experienced BBer's agree?
In reference to what Needsize stated....guys take care of yourself you started on this journey with making yourself better....so keep this in mind along the way. Do the right protocols and follow the right advise.

 

[alfa23]

looks like I missed out on most of this one
my 0.02, steroids can lead to an increased risk of heart and cholesterol problems.....can lead, not will lead. If you are predisposed then its something you need to worry about....but if I look I can find a study that says that basically anything you do can lead to one horrible end or another
I can only speak from personal experience, of which I have a decent amount. I have been juicing for 7.5 years now. Started with regular 8 week cycles, recently have been on for years at a time. I have had two very healthy kids on massive cycles due to Swales Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol. I have blood levels checked regularily, that includes cholesterol, cortisol, liver values, blood pressure, etc, you name it....nothing has ever been out of the normal range. Even had an ecg done on my heart, same deal
I am not saying that it cant lead to these things, but to say that it does for sure is absolute crap. I even ran dbol at 80mg a day for 8 weeks and had a blood test done and liver values were still in the normal range. On 150mg a day of anadrol had my blood pressure done, it was 130/90, that was the worst it ever was....on 150mg a day of anadrol, plus 2g of test. Recently had it done for work, on 800mg of test, and it was 120/80

Really? I always thought you were naturaul

 

[needsize]

ns, whats your stand on running milk thistle while on say dbol? i've heard guys run tbol + var for 10weeks leading upto a comp w/ milk thistle.

I have run milk thistle between cycles but never during...again this is my own experience, but I have never had a blood test out of whack during a cycle, and have pushed some on purpose to see what the test results were. On the one I ran Winstrol (winny) for 14 weeks at 100mg for a show, at one point wasnt feeling right so had some tests done, turns out everything was in the normal range. the crappy feeling was from dieting for so long, I went from 260lbs - 195

 

[Lousy_Bastard]

Been on for a year. Been running test at 450mg a week and Eq at 5oomg a week.

Thats alot of gear a week for a year IMO is that not dangerous?

 

[Bast]

Thats alot of gear a week for a year IMO is that not dangerous?

Thats not very much, again read what Needsize wrote. I was recently on for a long time, and all values are great. Actually shocked my doc.

Needsize: Do you get much scartissue and what sites do you use?

 

[Lousy_Bastard]

Thats not very much, again read what Needsize wrote. I was recently on for a long time, and all values are great. Actually shocked my doc.

That has surprised me and does the body not start to get nothing from it cos its so long

 

[needsize]

Thats not very much, again read what Needsize wrote. I was recently on for a long time, and all values are great. Actually shocked my doc.

Needsize: Do you get much scartissue and what sites do you use?

funny you ask, I seem to be running out of sites...had some oil in my shoulder that wouldnt go away so stopped using them, am basically just using quads and glutes, but using a 1.5" pin, but still not sure if its absorbing with the scar tissue