Calves in general

[Tombraider]

Thanks bigPal for your input I appreciate it. Im a female though so calling me bro is not necessary. As a personal Trainer Id advise to rather stick to 45mins training one body part. Also its not how long you train, its the intensity of your sessions that determine how effective your workout is. If you think that doing 45minutes is too short for you then youve probably reached a platuea and need to switch your training methods up or maybe up your weight??

Another thing is training a bigger muscle group earlier in the week releases your bodies natural GH, so maybe Legs on a monday... especially if you want your legs to grow!!

Thats just my 2cents

 

[cashout]

LOL @Phatbastard trying to irritate everybody and failing.

So heres another question since there are so many myths around training calves- Do we absolutly slaughter them? Since they are smaller muscles is this smart?
Or if we do them twice a week like you said- should we train them till they burn enough to feel like we've worked them?

Ive also heard that if you train calves before another muscle group, blood will flow from the calve into the working muscle and your calve would not have gotten a sufficient amount of time holding the pump (bloodflow).
Whats your take on this? Hence why I try to train calves alone, If I cant i train them with Abs or after my other muscle groups that dont have a problem growing.

When I train calves, I train them to the point I can't walk they are so pumped. After a workout, my legs are literally shaking when I sit down and press up on my toes. There are times, particularly when I was younger and still working really hard to build a good set of calves that the day after a calf workout, they were still pumped and so sore that I couldn't straighten my feet out flat.

Your philosophy is very similar to how I was trained over 16 years ago. But throughout the years I too have ran into lots of guys with ego issues who make you doubt you know what your talkin about.

Ok, maybe a better question instead of how many sets would be, how long are your workouts ?

I break my muscles up into days individually. Chest Mondays, Back, Arms, shoulders, abs, then legs. Sunday is rest day.

I would go and do 1 and 1/2 hours to 2 hrs everyday for each muscle. But many guys were telling me I was "overtraining"

I just feel like when I do 45 mins it just doesnt feel thorough enough...

whats your thoughts?

30 minutes to an 60 minutes tops.

Chest - 45 minutes
Back - 45 minutes
Arms - 30 minutes
Shoulders - 30 minutes
Legs - 1 hour.

When I finish on these body parts, there is nothing left in them and they can't give any more.

Thanks bigPal for your input I appreciate it. Im a female though so calling me bro is not necessary. As a personal Trainer Id advise to rather stick to 45mins training one body part. Also its not how long you train, its the intensity of your sessions that determine how effective your workout is. If you think that doing 45minutes is too short for you then youve probably reached a platuea and need to switch your training methods up or maybe up your weight??

Another thing is training a bigger muscle group earlier in the week releases your bodies natural GH, so maybe Legs on a monday... especially if you want your legs to grow!!

Thats just my 2cents

Also a big part of my training - there should be no wasted time in a training session. Once it starts - maintain 100% intensity and focus on the body part in question.

If you are focused and using sufficient intensity, 10-12 sets for something like chest, back, or Quads/Hams and you should be done. If you can't kill it in 10-12 sets of full out effort, you are not doing it right and there is a lot of room for improvement in the process.

 

[BigPal]

30 minutes to an 60 minutes tops.

Chest - 45 minutes
Back - 45 minutes
Arms - 30 minutes
Shoulders - 30 minutes
Legs - 1 hour.

When I finish on these body parts, there is nothing left in them and they can't give any more.



Also a big part of my training - there should be no wasted time in a training session. Once it starts - maintain 100% intensity and focus on the body part in question.

If you are focused and using sufficient intensity, 10-12 sets for something like chest, back, or Quads/Hams and you should be done. If you can't kill it in 10-12 sets of full out effort, you are not doing it right and there is a lot of room for improvement in the process.

So how long do you rest in between sets ?

Just to give you an idea of my workouts, today I did chest. I was doing slow and controlled sets at the ten rep range really focusing on that muscle.

I did press
inclined press
cable flys
a decline press with a cable
followed by some more presses and inclines on a machine

I kept my rest in between sets at 30-60 seconds. After about an hour it felt like I got a good workout but I did an extra half hour just to get the muscles to the point where they couldnt give anymore.

what should i do diffrent? Im getting results but you definatly have more expirience and knowledge and I wanna learn.

 

[cashout]

So how long do you rest in between sets ?

Just to give you an idea of my workouts, today I did chest. I was doing slow and controlled sets at the ten rep range really focusing on that muscle.

I did press
inclined press
cable flys
a decline press with a cable
followed by some more presses and inclines on a machine

I kept my rest in between sets at 30-60 seconds. After about an hour it felt like I got a good workout but I did an extra half hour just to get the muscles to the point where they couldnt give anymore.

what should i do diffrent? Im getting results but you definatly have more expirience and knowledge and I wanna learn.

On average, I'd say 2-3 minutes between sets on most body parts but it depends on what I am doing and how it feels.

A great deal of what I do is about how the muscle feels while training. Rest, like reps and sets is a function of feeling.

I never actual count reps. I know I always do more than 10 but I never plan to count them out as I do them.

Same goes for sets. I actually don't track them unless I am bench marking for some reason and I need to communicate it to somebody.

The thing that has to be the focus is not the numbers of anything, rest, reps, sets, or weight, but the feeling of the muscle being trained.

You should easily be able to feel when a muscle has given all it has to give. As you get more time into your training, you'll learn to connect the muscle and the mind better so that each rep and set are full out effort.

 

[KO'd]

you really got a lot of great advice thanks for dropping some knowledge on us. Really appreciated

 

[BigPal]

KO'd, cashout knows his stuff !!! Check out his Failed PCT thread. Ill be following his protocol.

Thanks again Cashout !!!

 

[josh30013]

The key to great calves is a nice lawn and a shitty push lawnmower and treat every stride as a calve raise. And make sure you mow 2 a week...

 

[Tombraider]

Fuck if thats truee then my gardeners one lucky bastard