can someone recommend doses for tren-a,mast,test cycle?

[secret_identity]

I'm at about 255lbs right now, pretty high body fat. I'm guessing high teens, low twenties. me and my training partner are going to cut together. My strongest cycle thus far was test-e 500mg, EQ 600mg and dbol 30mg kickstart. I might run light accutane throughout this cycle. 10mg/day or so.

so what would be a good dosage to run these at? hoping to drop around 50lbs without a lot of muscle loss. I've seen cycles where people run 50mg ED of each, but this seems like too much right?

 

[Phatbastard]

Man I hate to bust your bubble but aas should not be used to loose weight! I HIGHLY recomend you talk to 3J Dial in your nutrition

50mg each of what? Can you clarify? What ester Test, Tren and Mast? I'm assuming you wanting to use the two later for the purpose of cutting?

Little Know fact you can cut on any steroid! Stacking of multiple compounds like this can lead to unwanted problems! Are you familure with all 3 of these compounds? Well Test we know you are but Tren and mast?

If not and you add them both what one are you going to pull when/IF you get sides that are less than desirable?

 

[R1rider]

i agree with Phatbastard, you need to fix your diet. i would not start the cycle till you reduce your bf

talk to 3J in the diet section

 

[Phatbastard]

Here look at this

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...nutrition-network-diet-maximushrt-can-do.html

 

[secret_identity]

my diets good, even as a natty I dropped 40lbs several times to get down to abs. I'm an endomorph so it's almost impossible for me to pack on muscle without packing on fat. but in 3 years I've packed on about 70lbs of muscle with 40-50 of that being as a natty, so I think my shit is in order. no I haven't used tren or mast, but I think it will be fine if I run them at a fairly low dose. these would both be short esters so tren-ace and masteron propionate. I'm not retarded, I know you don't NEED AAS to cut and I now that you CAN cut on anything, but we all know some compounds are better than others. so once again, what would be a good dose?

 

[secret_identity]

Diet is the key but tren and mast can certainly help. Well at least tren. But mast is a great addition. I'm running Deca and bulking now but switching to tren later to cut. I'm running mast at 700/wk throughout and will probably hit the tren at 400/500/wk. And long esters are the only way to go imo.

that's a lot of gear
the reason I want to do short esters is so that I can control the sides more easily if I have to.
is tren-e liver toxic? I know tren-ace is somewhat toxic due to the
benzyl- alcohol in it, and the hex ester is even more toxic if i'm not mistaken.

 

[secret_identity]

Man I hate to bust your bubble but aas should not be used to loose weight! I HIGHLY recomend you talk to 3J Dial in your nutrition

50mg each of what? Can you clarify? What ester Test, Tren and Mast? I'm assuming you wanting to use the two later for the purpose of cutting?

Little Know fact you can cut on any steroid! Stacking of multiple compounds like this can lead to unwanted problems! Are you familure with all 3 of these compounds? Well Test we know you are but Tren and mast?

If not and you add them both what one are you going to pull when/IF you get sides that are less than desirable?

this is a stupid post. aas is much more important when dieting than when bulking. dieting natty is why natty bb's are small! I got fat, but have added around 100lbs to all my major lifts in the last 6 months, so while there are arguably better ways to grow, adding calories when I hit a plateau solves the problem for me. as long as I keep adding clean calories I keep growing. I was deep squatting 405 for reps, with a big belly. it works for me. it worked for other bb's as well. I'm gonna try to keep it under control next time but 40lbs really isn't that much to lose.

 

[3J]

this is a stupid post. aas is much more important when dieting than when bulking. dieting natty is why natty bb's are small! I got fat, but have added around 100lbs to all my major lifts in the last 6 months, so while there are arguably better ways to grow, adding calories when I hit a plateau solves the problem for me. as long as I keep adding clean calories I keep growing. I was deep squatting 405 for reps, with a big belly. it works for me. it worked for other bb's as well. I'm gonna try to keep it under control next time but 40lbs really isn't that much to lose.

said the guy with a really high bf who is about to put a shit ton of steroids in himself

you dont need gear to drop weight buddy. you need dedication and a good diet

and if you have dropped 40lbs multiple times to see abs maybe you should work on keeping those abs.. just sayin


these guys gave you great advice here