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[fugazee]

Tbol/Clen cycle starting next month

Will be starting this next month, Turinabol/clen:

wk 1-2 20mg ed tbol (10mg am-10mg pm)
wk 3-6 40mg ed tbol (20mg am-20mg pm)
wk 1-2, 5-6 160mcg ed Clen

wk 7 30mg ed Nolva
wk 8-9 20mg Nolva

Milk thistle throughout, not sure about dose.
I also have plenty of t3 and I might throw that in during the same time as the clen wk 1-2 & 5-6. Also, I have clomid, I know some will say Nolva/clomid is good. Please let me know what you think, esspecialy the milk thistle dose and anything else recommended. Thanks in advance.

 

[fugazee]

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[Littleguy21]

I'm no expert but tbol is mild I believe.... But if ur running nolva alone do 40/40/20/20
If u do nolva clomid do
40/20/20 for nolva and day one of clomid do 300mg then 2-11 do 100mg and 12-21 do 50mg
I read that in a sticky

 

[Littleguy21]

just looked up turninol to make sure. U shouldn't need clomid.

 

[dialtone]

if you run t3, work it up to 100 mcg ed and keep it that high until the end, its unnecessary to run it in 2 week intervals like clen. clen is ran that way bc we grow immune to it. you wont need an anti e during, just run a proper pct...either nolva, nolva & clomid, clomid etc...keep in mind that if you are dieting and doing proper cardio, the tbol wont make you gain that much weight but will supply sufficient aid in combating catabolism from calorie deficit and diet drugs.

 

[adimenia]

tbol is mild your dosage is too low bump it up to 40-50mg a day
orals only is a bad idea IMO

 

[zephyrdaz]

Will be starting this next month, Turinabol/clen:

wk 1-2 20mg ed tbol (10mg am-10mg pm)
wk 3-6 40mg ed tbol (20mg am-20mg pm)
wk 1-2, 5-6 160mcg ed Clen

wk 7 30mg ed Nolva
wk 8-9 20mg Nolva

Milk thistle throughout, not sure about dose.
I also have plenty of t3 and I might throw that in during the same time as the clen wk 1-2 & 5-6. Also, I have clomid, I know some will say Nolva/clomid is good. Please let me know what you think, esspecialy the milk thistle dose and anything else recommended. Thanks in advance.

People should not be giving you advice untill you've given us some basic information. It's impossible to give correct, safe advice without it.

Age? stats? cycle history and training history?

 

[fugazee]

Understandable Z- 29, 6'1". 230lbs, about 18%bf. If you have read some of my earlier posts you would see that my stats have changed a bit. I am in the process of loosing weight and toning up before I run this. I have lost about 10lbs and bf has gone done nicely. I have been lifting since high school but really hit it hard in my military years. On and off since I got out years back but have been on a pretty solid sched for about 1yr. I have ran gear while in military, test Winstrol (winny) clen. I will be sticking to the gear that will not have the sides that test will give me. In my line of work, it is not exceptable to have acne, bloat, exc that comes with the tests therefore I have chosing to run with turinabol for now.

 

[zephyrdaz]

Looks ok, if your really set on orals. No need to ramp up the dose of the tbol, just run 40mg ED week 1-6.

I'm no expert on Clen but I think it's best to cycle it, 2 weeks on two weeks off, Someone who knows correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Just Nolva is fine

Littleguy21

No need to go overboard on the Clomid

Day 1-30 50mg Clomid would do

 

[mutant boy]

Looks ok, if your really set on orals. No need to ramp up the dose of the tbol, just run 40mg ED week 1-6.

I'm no expert on Clen but I think it's best to cycle it, 2 weeks on two weeks off, Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Just Nolva is fine

Littleguy21

No need to go overboard on the Clomid

Day 1-30 50mg Clomid would do

Yes 2 weeks on 2 weeks off is correct

 

[Littleguy21]

Looks ok, if your really set on orals. No need to ramp up the dose of the tbol, just run 40mg ED week 1-6.

I'm no expert on Clen but I think it's best to cycle it, 2 weeks on two weeks off, Someone who knows correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Just Nolva is fine

Littleguy21

No need to go overboard on the Clomid

Day 1-30 50mg Clomid would do

Ik I wrote that free I remembered how mild tbol is

 

[JayC]

Hey fugazee! As we talked before, no test cycles are if'y but we've already discussed.
Looks ok.. Zephyr's advice is solid. I don't know if you'll see much from the tbol at 18% BF but you might get some strength gains..
Clen is better when cycled 2weeks on/off... and I'd recommend taking a good herbal thermagenic on on the off weeks.
For post cycle therapy (pct) I don't think you need more then 3 weeks of clomid at 50mg/day.

 

[Dlove]

" I will be sticking to the gear that will not have the sides that test will give me. In my line of work, it is not exceptable to have acne, bloat, exc that comes with the tests therefore I have chosing to run with turinabol for now.[/QUOTE]

Ever thought of Prop? No bloat ive personally never gotten acne either on Prop just Enanthate. The EOD injects aren't bad. I used to be a crazy pussy when it comes to needles, a 25 gauge 1 inch pin hurts less than pinching your skin.

TEST IS BEST

 

[fugazee]

Hey fugazee! As we talked before, no test cycles are if'y but we've already discussed.
Looks ok.. Zephyr's advice is solid. I don't know if you'll see much from the tbol at 18% BF but you might get some strength gains..
Clen is better when cycled 2weeks on/off... and I'd recommend taking a good herbal thermagenic on on the off weeks.
For post cycle therapy (pct) I don't think you need more then 3 weeks of clomid at 50mg/day.

Hey J, yeah I know, we've talked about it and right now, no test for me. I do though respect your input and one day I will get back into the tests. I will run the 50mg of clomid ed for 3 weeks instead of nolva since I have clomid on hand. Also, what dose of milk thistle is recomended and where is the cheapest place to purchase milk thistle?

 

[fugazee]

" I will be sticking to the gear that will not have the sides that test will give me. In my line of work, it is not exceptable to have acne, bloat, exc that comes with the tests therefore I have chosing to run with turinabol for now.

Ever thought of Prop? No bloat ive personally never gotten acne either on Prop just Enanthate. The EOD injects aren't bad. I used to be a crazy pussy when it comes to needles, a 25 gauge 1 inch pin hurts less than pinching your skin.

TEST IS BEST[/QUOTE]

Dlove, not trippin about the pinning but i've ran test e and cyp and did not like the sides. Truthfully when I was running gear then I was not as informed like I am now thanks to 'ology, but nonetheless, sides from test is ot an option at this moment.

 

[fugazee]

Hey fugazee! As we talked before, no test cycles are if'y but we've already discussed.
Looks ok.. Zephyr's advice is solid. I don't know if you'll see much from the tbol at 18% BF but you might get some strength gains..
Clen is better when cycled 2weeks on/off... and I'd recommend taking a good herbal thermagenic on on the off weeks.
For post cycle therapy (pct) I don't think you need more then 3 weeks of clomid at 50mg/day.

J- would you still rec if I run t3 throughout?

 

[JayC]

J- would you still rec if I run t3 throughout?

NO!! I would not add t3 to that cycle. I don't think its enough gear to preserve strength and muscle while on t3.
stick with your original plan and kick it off. Give it a shot and let us know how it progresses.. we can always adjust as you move along.

 

[barnzy7]

Just get milk thistle at walmart. I cant remember exactly but I think It was something like 150 caps for $6 or something like that. Im not sure about the dose though, someone else has to get that.