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Mulldog

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I was reading a lot about different kinds of steriods and It all usually says "being under the age of 20 can increse risk of side effects" Im 18 years old and I cut down from 252 to 248 then now to 228. Im wondering if there is anything I can buy that will get me toned a bit more and increse the size of my arms and chest. I know there is risk being younger but I dont have years to body build. I want to look good going into the school year. Any suggestions on steriods, whats been used and what you prefer?

Ive been reading a lot on here and Im not sure which to chose or how much dosage..

thanks,
Sean
 
Bro I must say you should know you reaching your max build naturally is best before you start. I see that you dropped alot of body fat and water weight while dieting.

Making your chest big and arms veiny for the girls at school is not the reason to start AAS. It should be used for the purpose of knowing that you achieved your limit and broke a few plateaus, also the love for training and dedication. Not to use Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and go drink and party and bounce your chest around pushing the crowd (although it feels good to feel strong).

If I would tell you to use something it should be Primobolan Depot at 300mg/wk for 10 weeks. Gains will be quality and bloat and other sides will be at moderate at best. Some say use Test for your first cycle, but I think Primo should be a better fit for your case after you achieved some better natural size.
 
You dont have years to bodybuild? that statement there should answer you own question. even if you juiced you have to train. when you come off you have to train to maintain. Sean, personally i think you should just work out hard and eat decently. you sound kind of lazy or impatient. maybe both. good luck and be careful.
 
Yeah, I just meant, I dont have the time to go 6 dayus a week ahrd. Im going to be in university studying and the most I will get is like half hour in the mornings according to my schedule. What about DBOL?
 
A friend of mine mentioned taking 4 dbol a day for 4 weeks, starting at the same 4 weeks take 2 shots of sustan for 8 weeks. Any comments?
 
who said you gotta train 6 days a week? 3 is plenty and many make great gains off 2 days per week.

you wanna be buff but not do the work? try synthol.
 
screw it..

what about something thast isnt injected?

Ive been motivated to work hard at this, I wouldnt hve lost 20lbs in 2 months of I didnt motivate myself..

Would DBOL make me bloat up? Or would it help me get defined when I do hardcore cardio and workouts..
 
What appears below was developed by a number of our good friends at www.anabolicfitness.com the link is http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/age.htm

Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.


Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (“growth plates”) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (“voicebox”) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later


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juiceing at 18 can cause your growth plates to close and end your chances to grow taller . wait till your 21-22 .
 
You say you need motivation, well losing 20lbs should be motivating enough.

18 so you have done most of your growing so the growth plate shit is total nonsense at that age, but other factors need to be considered as we are all saying.
 
At 18 your test and HGH are high take advatage of them. Now that you've lost weight try to bulid some muscle naturally.

Gear isn't a magic formula for muscle, you need to know what your body needs to build muscle, like the proper diet. Once you have 3 year of that down then consider juice

JohnnyB
 
BRO FO SHO said:

18 so you have done most of your growing so the growth plate shit is total nonsense at that age,


Lots and lots of people continue growing in height past 18 yrs., so your comment is nonsense !!
 
Yeah you grow at minimal at best after 18, what I am talking about is the ages where your growth plate can become hindered starts at puberty (and before puberty occurs) where your first growth burst can halt the growth plate and halt the structure to grow at usual size.
 
StoneColdNTO said:
Lots and lots of people continue growing in height past 18 yrs., so your comment is nonsense !!
shaq grew like 4-6 inches while he was in collage
 
alright, well Ive decided to cut the juice idea and just stick to a healthy diet and lots of cardio, with the addition of XXX-Lean and some centrum vitimens..

thanks guys..
 
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