Creation or Evolution.

[Strega]

LOL

There is no such thing as "creation theory"

You cannot have a theory based on a frigging lack of evidence to prove otherwise. It doesnt friggin work like that.

On that note I can already see that im beating a very dead horse.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

No ther's no scientifique tehory of evolution.
ther's just some relibale person who let a chance to a futur tehory of creation which nothing having with creationisme.
By now what we can see is : the tehory of evolution have no solid fondations, and fossils never brang no proof of nothing.
yesterday i told about the " genetic velocity"

I told about the convertion of the matter in energy, so is the Einstein's tehory of the relativity :

if we convert the total mass of the matter in the all galaxy in energy we have in resut : 1X10³³ celcius grade for a size of about... 1X10²² or more Kilometer and a celerity about 150000km/sec... and 15 millard years ago we are very very very far from the big bang... in fact ther's nothing having we a big bang... mush more like high wind...

And it don't match with the big-bang tehory then.

we are now at the begining of science. 30 years ago it was simply impossible to have this dicusion together because internet wasn't invented.

if we close the curatian for some tehory jus now like you have done already strega...
in the futur... all the science book will be write by "dead horses"...

Have tolerance an patience. You could be right or wrong...

We know nothing actualy. we just discus.

 

[Strega]

There is nothing left to discuss. The horse died already.

There is no such thing as "creation theory or creation science" except by the faith based creationism movement.

The scientific theory of evolution IS based on an overwhelming preponderance of scientifically proven evidence and to say otherwise only shows that you are truly either ignorant and never made it past the 9th grade or are intellectually dishonest and are only pud pulling for amusement.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

you don't believe to creationism... i don't to
you don't agree with creationnism tehory... i don't to

but :

The scientific theory of evolution IS based on an overwhelming preponderance of scientifically proven evidence

Noway...

i stop to argue now... i have to heat the horse. LOL

 

[Strega]

Ok, unenlightened one, I hope this doesnt make your head explode. LOL

Evolution is both theory and fact

Creationism = faith

The hypocracy and fallacy of creation science

BTW, I believe in Santa Claus.

 

[WHINER]

how are we advanced when there is architecture created many many years ago which we could not reproduce today if we tried?

what i meant is we went from chasing animals with spears to building pyramids overnight thats what i meant im not talking about the 21st century humans being more advance im talking about human life in general

 

[WHINER]

so we had the intelligence to travel from one planet to this one, take it over, but we cant seem the figure out how to get back or make contact with said planet?

get back? i was watching a program that show that their already in the works prepareing to live on the moon in 2020 or jupiter's moon titan

 

[juced_porkchop]

god is just a lable just beacuse i beleave in evolution dosnt mean there there isnt a "god" an "energy" binding "all things".
strega you stuck up on the catholic typ of relig,
i was born roman catholic yet beleave 90% to be bull shit and "theory" that was put like it was a FACT wich i think was kinda dumb.
BUTTT!!!
I beleave your hardheadedness/stubborness will in the end rob you of intelligence.
just kinda like you say about people beleaving on things there there is no proof of yet half of what your talking about there is non.
yet we know its there like gravity for eg..
yet i KNOW god is there.
not some fat guy on a cloud thats just a label.

maybe it was a evolution/mutation along the way, an alien dna that made it to earth, some one thre a few people on earth and let em fuck eachother, eather way in my eyes GOD IS AND WAS THERE for eather or all of them.

i beleave it a combo of them all to an extent.

I beleave on ower inner energy, i beleave in life after death(more like a continuation)

and i also feel very sorry for you to be living your live by only hard facts.
as i seem to think you find it sad for us i also find it sad for you to be such a lost soul "im sure you dont beleave in that eather so it shouldent bug you" i mean theres no electrical charg in us the go's some where when we are dead and no one knows where yet it dosnt stay in ower dead bodys to say we are still living is just stupid cuzz theres no proof right?? yet it go's some where.
any way thats my
0.2 cent

 

[grafixLSUalum]

get back? i was watching a program that show that their already in the works prepareing to live on the moon in 2020 or jupiter's moon titan

fine, not get back, but we have no recollection of where we came from, i guarantee in 10,000 years, if the human race still exists and we live on various planets, we will not forget we once lived on Earth

 

[Strega]

You wanna know what I believe in???

I believe that "god" is the ability to realize in self reliance and that man is neither good nor bad, but in a state of survival. I also believe that man is losing this battle as is all creatures are enevitably doomed to. Life is a state of temporary existance puntuated by how we choose to live it. Life is not fair nor is it equal. There will always be those that live in squalor and those that live in palaces and no matter how we try to explain away these injusteses as any act of any god the fact remains that there will always be those that occupy the left side of the bell curve that rely on gods and those few that thrive on the right. There is no moral justice in this. It is just the way it is, the way it will always be, the way it has always been.
Aynn Rand is a great read.

BTW, I was baptized long ago and went to some pretty hoity toity private christan schools and am well versed in the bible.
It is a nice morality tale that teaches the unwashed masses how to conduct themselves, but little else other than an historical relic.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

I think... kane makes a good thread in this new forum... thanx for you participation Strega.

Now you can return with the atomes, unicells, amphybians, lizards, apes, and all the rest of the chain evolutiv...

BTW.Don't worry about my brain... but if it explode... i will send you a lil piece of... it could be usefull to you.

i'm sorry to break some of your illusions, but i do not think Santa exist realy...

 

[ManOfMuscle]

Faith = a belief in in something that cannot be proven

Evolution is science.


It matters little that great scienist like Hawking or Einstien believes that there may be a grand creator.

People cling to faith because they need to be able to explain the unexplainable.

How upsetting do you think it was for people to learn that the earth was not the center of the universe? The church surely didnt like it and to those who's eyes were opened had to have a very significant pardigm shift in order to cope with such revelation.

I find it curious that people of faith do not want science to succeed in learning new things, to dig deeper into the past to see how things work, how things develope and how thing came to be.

Fear of having a personal/emotional investment in faith explained away by science keeps people either ignorant or intellectually dishonest(which are you?). Why is it that the church has always fought science??? Because the church does not want to lose POWER.

Faith is the belief in ignorance. People of faith hate science because it hinders their ability to be ignorant.

 

[WHINER]

fine, not get back, but we have no recollection of where we came from, i guarantee in 10,000 years, if the human race still exists and we live on various planets, we will not forget we once lived on Earth

exactly we have no recollection of where we came from nor what the missing link is so how can we forget where we came from now but in 10,000 yrs we wont its like the game telephone the correct info gets lost on the way so in 10,000 yrs i doubt we'll know we came from earth

 

[grafixLSUalum]

right... but how do you suppose we arrived to this planet? in a spaceship? we then had to wait hundreds of thousands of years till we could figure out how to do that again? we showed up in a spaceship and then made stone wheels and spears....

 

[WHINER]

right... but how do you suppose we arrived to this planet? in a spaceship? we then had to wait hundreds of thousands of years till we could figure out how to do that again? we showed up in a spaceship and then made stone wheels and spears....

lol no. it is said that mars was once filled with frozen water many many 100 yrs ago and when theres water theres life right?? so when coments collided with mars that ice burst and drifting into outer space and possibly onto earth and we evolved from the water on mars that POSSILBY drifted over here and if that is true we would be martians from another planet

 

[Strega]

"I think... kane makes a good thread in this new forum... thanx for you participation Strega."___Kane

This is code for: I dont like your answer, I wont acknowledge your reference and i do not know what else to say, but I SURRENDER! lol

"Now you can return with the atomes, unicells, amphybians, lizards, apes, and all the rest of the chain evolutiv..."__Kane

This is another demonstration of ignorance and a general lack of knowledge of the subject. Evolution is not linear. Only those that slept through sixth grade science class would think this. lol

"BTW.Don't worry about my brain... but if it explode... i will send you a lil piece of... it could be usefull to you."___Kane

LMAO! You have already demonstrated numerous time in this thread that you have an Abby Someone... Abby Normal brain. After your head explodes, I suggest that you stumble around, pick up the pieces and rearrange them so that it works the next time you need it.





AND MY FAVORITE OFALL...


"i'm sorry to break some of your illusions, but i do not think Santa exist realy..."___Kane


Now you are getting nasty. Santa Claus is every bit as real and just as provable if not moreso than any devine creation.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

"I think... kane makes a good thread in this new forum... thanx for you participation Strega."___Kane

This is code for: I dont like your answer, I wont acknowledge your reference and i do not know what else to say, but I SURRENDER! lol

"Now you can return with the atomes, unicells, amphybians, lizards, apes, and all the rest of the chain evolutiv..."__Kane

This is another demonstration of ignorance and a general lack of knowledge of the subject. Evolution is not linear. Only those that slept through sixth grade science class would think this. lol

"BTW.Don't worry about my brain... but if it explode... i will send you a lil piece of... it could be usefull to you."___Kane

LMAO! You have already demonstrated numerous time in this thread that you have an Abby Someone... Abby Normal brain. After your head explodes, I suggest that you stumble around, pick up the pieces and rearrange them so that it works the next time you need it.





AND MY FAVORITE OFALL...


"i'm sorry to break some of your illusions, but i do not think Santa exist realy..."___Kane


Now you are getting nasty. Santa Claus is every bit as real and just as provable if not moreso than any devine creation.

Amazing...

It's too easy to draw you by the nose… Strega... Srly...
i have no conviction... Evolution, creation...
for me as far i can see, is just a point of view, it doesn't solve or bring problem to me.

I make this thread for the polemics... You take it personnal... And you're wrong.

But it's Ok... it's only internet...

And the most important : open a lil your mind... you have no clue of patience and tolerence... i don't know.. stop tren, or something... drink a beer...

 

[Strega]

Amazing...

It's too easy to draw you by the nose… Strega... Srly...
i have no conviction... Evolution, creation...
for me as far i can see, is just a point of view, it doesn't solve or bring problem to me. If that were truly the case then why have you argued a point of view?

I make this thread for the polemics (WTF is "polemics")... You take it personnal... And you're wrong. I do not take this personal. I enjoy real debate among those that truly feel passionate about this topic more or less because it forces one to think and to look inward. So far though you seem to be arguing a side without real conviction and without an argument. never once did Is ay that I do not believe or have faith in God. What I have said was that I do not have faith in a book written by man. So far the only argument that the creationist may have, that I probably would agree with is that a god, a divine creator may have snapped his holy fingers and the big bang occured. Everything else can be explained by science. I said CAN be and did not say that it has been.

But it's Ok... it's only internet... Yup, and you know what they say about arguing on the innerwebs... Its like winning the Special Olympics decathalon.

And the most important : open a lil your mind... you have no clue of patience and tolerence... i don't know.. stop tren, or something... drink a beer... LOL! Allow me to let you in on something... I know how to operate a nuclear reactor and or make a nuclear bomb. truly. I am now a classroom teacher with 18 children in my class all of which are disabled. i know what I speak and have a background that would blow your mind, but is all good. Maybe you should venture into the convo lounge once in a while. Im not really a bad guy at all. I just hate stupid people. Oh, just so you dont get mad... If I thought you were stupid, I wouldnt have responded at all.[/QUOTE]

 

[Strega]

Kane, wiem, że język angielski nie jest twoim językiem ojczystym. Czy byłoby łatwiejsze do dialogu w języku polskim? Ja zakładając, że Twoim językiem ojczystym jest język polski. Jeśli nie, to proszę po niezależnie od swojego ojczystego języka, jest i będzie tłumaczyć. Twój angielski jest straszny i spróbować odczytać i myślę, dużo tego, co próbują powiedzieć utracone. No i mój polski jest straszny LOL.

بلدي سيئة ، وأرى ان كنت تعيش في بلد يتحدث العربية. مجرد استخدام اللغة التي تريد وسوف تترجم طالما أنا أعرف ما كنت تستخدم اللغة.

 

[estray]

Why cant people accept that its likely a combination of the 2?


Ego.