Dangers of Steroids
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we are the ginny pigs for the new breed of body builders and those who choose to take performance enhancement drugs. Athletes are starting to drop,due to increasing dosage and duration of use. The jury is still out on the long term effects of AS use. We who play the game accept the consequences and risks. If you decide to take AS or other supplements then you are ultimately responsible for your health. Simple blood tests and urine studies will let you know the status of your kidneys. Kidney disease is very slow progressive disease and dosen't rear it's ugly head until it is to late. I know i am on a tangent, but i find it very disturbing when people ignore the signs of disease. ie.... high bp, edema in the ankles and around the eyes....warning signs right in your face... simple test for renal function is the 24 hr protein creatinine cleareance test, which will tell you how well your kidneys are filtering waste products. Do not rely on the blood creatinine because it is well known that athletes esp. body builders have high creatinine levels normally. Sorry I tend to ramble,but i had a bad exp. with kidney tests ,thought i was a gonner at one time,but i am ok now.
Slick Arrado
Yeah, I'll mow your lawn.
Bump for a great thread.
mesomorph
New member
How much of what is in there is really stuff to worry about?
This is the stuff in there that bothered me since I read this yesterday. Other posters have already commented on other substances, length of time on...
My first point is this, on tren, getting nauseous, and loosing dinner as much as twice a day is not very uncommon for many. I chuckle because I think maybe that is why it is such a good one for cutting, you got to force yourself to eat until you are sick just to maintain weight. And water retention on tren and dbol are also common. Even a sense of being tired and needing a lot of sleep is normal, feeling like you are fighting off a cold or something by the end of a cycle.... I have heard a few lifters mention shortness of breath on cycles doing light cardio..., so I never thought that was even too abnormal.
Secondly, The dude didn't drink, which would have made it worse for sure. And the dosages are pretty much in line too. So he was sensible pretty much there.
So the only symptom that was odd was getting pale. I have been told jaundice is the only real sign of liver trouble that you can see.
Anyhow, even though this scared me because of the symptoms are all too common, I decided ultimately that most of them probably weren't really indicators.
I guess cycling off for as long as you are on, keeping cycles short when you are on harsh substances as this dude was... plus the little stuff like the milk-thistle, ala, drinking plenty of water, avoiding other chemicals that would aggravate, are all important as others have stated.
My creatinine levels are always high when I get them checked. But the doc always says they are reasonable, and as long as they are stable, not climbing from one test to another there is nothing to worry about.
This is the stuff in there that bothered me since I read this yesterday. Other posters have already commented on other substances, length of time on...
My first point is this, on tren, getting nauseous, and loosing dinner as much as twice a day is not very uncommon for many. I chuckle because I think maybe that is why it is such a good one for cutting, you got to force yourself to eat until you are sick just to maintain weight. And water retention on tren and dbol are also common. Even a sense of being tired and needing a lot of sleep is normal, feeling like you are fighting off a cold or something by the end of a cycle.... I have heard a few lifters mention shortness of breath on cycles doing light cardio..., so I never thought that was even too abnormal.
Secondly, The dude didn't drink, which would have made it worse for sure. And the dosages are pretty much in line too. So he was sensible pretty much there.
So the only symptom that was odd was getting pale. I have been told jaundice is the only real sign of liver trouble that you can see.
Anyhow, even though this scared me because of the symptoms are all too common, I decided ultimately that most of them probably weren't really indicators.
I guess cycling off for as long as you are on, keeping cycles short when you are on harsh substances as this dude was... plus the little stuff like the milk-thistle, ala, drinking plenty of water, avoiding other chemicals that would aggravate, are all important as others have stated.
My creatinine levels are always high when I get them checked. But the doc always says they are reasonable, and as long as they are stable, not climbing from one test to another there is nothing to worry about.
elphabas_lil_bro
New member
Thanks for sharing. Im glad you got taken care of
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lil g
Guest
also, there are dangers we face everyday in life....walking down the street, going to the bank or a store...DRIVING with all these lunatics out there....just be safe in what you do...
mesomorph
New member
Must be the Pittsburghese, lol. I did mention about getting water etc in the post too. I bet everyone got the jist of what I meant, looks like you did OK.Dlove said:
Seems like a fairly sharp bunch around the forum. A large number of threads, political, or the ones with racist jesting. You better now to read the humor between the lines in order to get the real meaning or your won't be around here too long. I sometimes wonder what it would be like if you got all of the regular posters together in one room for a while, lol. Would have to have Cola there to keep the peace for sure.
tee
old...old man
Flex it said:
Nice info, but this could be misleading. How many of these guys died because of steroids and can that be proven? Also, how does this list compare to the general population death rate? Some of I dont know on the list, but I sure as hell know Alzado didnt die because of juice. Like was mentioned, there is a difference between use and abuse. You can kill yourself with too much of anything.
RichGenetics
"Resident BadAss"
This makes me worried too...I have always gotten my bloodwork done, and its been fine. But I have Mitrol Valve Prolapse and I'm sure Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) doesn't help it. Between a scale of 1 to 10, & 10 being severe, my doctor said my case is about a 3. Still is scary. 
Ozzy27
Olympian Bodybuilder
Sounds like maybe gear shouldn't be in your diet bro. I mean , if you already have heart trouble , gear might not be something for you.RichGenetics said:This makes me worried too...I have always gotten my bloodwork done, and its been fine. But I have Mitrol Valve Prolapse and I'm sure Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) doesn't help it. Between a scale of 1 to 10, & 10 being severe, my doctor said my case is about a 3. Still is scary.
SaVaGe
PowerLifter
wow, this makes me think. Both my ankles and hands are swollen (edema) and I've been very tired last few weeks. I've been on and off for the last 4 years, various stuff. But I only come off for a month max. I only did post cycle therapy (pct) 3 times.
Currently I'm on 2 iu of hgh and 750mg home brew test eth. If Igot higher with the hgh the swelling, numbness and tingling in my hands gets so bad I can not close them. In the past I've never experienced the edema and tiredness like now. I think it's due to homebrew. I've been hearing lot's of bro's getting hurt with homebrew.
I got bloodwork done and I'llget the results in a week.
I'll post in another thread not to post steal.
Currently I'm on 2 iu of hgh and 750mg home brew test eth. If Igot higher with the hgh the swelling, numbness and tingling in my hands gets so bad I can not close them. In the past I've never experienced the edema and tiredness like now. I think it's due to homebrew. I've been hearing lot's of bro's getting hurt with homebrew.
I got bloodwork done and I'llget the results in a week.
I'll post in another thread not to post steal.
Warmachine
Your Girls Pay my Bills
high blood pressure is hard on kidneys. keep the body fat down and use the right drugs to cut the water retention.
the kidneys are easy to keep tabs on, use urinalysis strips
http://www.drugstore.com/search/sea...bnjktrg&searchtype=1&search=urinalysis strips
the kidneys are easy to keep tabs on, use urinalysis strips
http://www.drugstore.com/search/sea...bnjktrg&searchtype=1&search=urinalysis strips
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