Dbol for first cycle
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Now, you said this is just to maintain weight, which is working cuz you're only 160lbs. But you just said all you would do if you wanted to gain weight is add another meal like this... WRONG. Your food choices suck for anything you are trying to do, except stay small.
Dario, everyone is trying to help you and you continue to say you don't need help with diet... which you obviously do. Like i have said, and this is my last post in this thread, you are looking to AAS for a miracle... and it ain't gonna happen. The drugs don't make the physique... DIET, REST, and TRAINING do.
Good luck.
scotimusprime
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sorry dario,fell asleep.
your BMR=
BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)
370+(21.6x[64kg])=1752cal
im not going to explain this # to you because you are a personal trainer blah blah but it is important
so to find out your TDEE we need your activity level,which you have NEVER posted but since your a "trainer" im gonna say ou work out approx 4 times a week?
TDEE=BMRx1.55=2716 cals to maintain your current weight. now this is assuming a few things but by changing some variables,the cals will only go up or down a bit.
so with your diet that RJ critiqued, i dont think your even taking in close to that intake.
so your a hardcore ectomorph and need the same macronutrient breakdown as i do,
and for you i would say 250g protien a day(1000cals)+250g carbohydrates(1000cals) and the rest of the calories in fat(80g of fat)
this is still to maintain weight. to gain LBM you need to go into a calorie surplus of approx 500 cals per day. that will add 1 lb of mass per week theoretically. so to "bulk" or "grow" you should really be eating 300/300/90. this is not set in stone and ANYONE can correct me here as i am just learning this shit myself but its a start.
if your food choices are right(oats,chicken,turkey breast....you know,your the trainer) you will grow and not gain any bodyfat or little to none anyways because you are using what you are taking in and your body has n o need to store the energy. IF for some reason you started to add a bit of fat, you could do some low intensity cardio to burn off a few calories and not buscle. i personally dont do any cardio while bulking because like you i have a fairly high metabolism and i want gains so i try not to hinder them at all. can always cut later.
i hope this helps bro. anyone that wants to change anything fel free but i think im close
your BMR=
BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)
370+(21.6x[64kg])=1752cal
im not going to explain this # to you because you are a personal trainer blah blah but it is important
so to find out your TDEE we need your activity level,which you have NEVER posted but since your a "trainer" im gonna say ou work out approx 4 times a week?
TDEE=BMRx1.55=2716 cals to maintain your current weight. now this is assuming a few things but by changing some variables,the cals will only go up or down a bit.
so with your diet that RJ critiqued, i dont think your even taking in close to that intake.
so your a hardcore ectomorph and need the same macronutrient breakdown as i do,
and for you i would say 250g protien a day(1000cals)+250g carbohydrates(1000cals) and the rest of the calories in fat(80g of fat)
this is still to maintain weight. to gain LBM you need to go into a calorie surplus of approx 500 cals per day. that will add 1 lb of mass per week theoretically. so to "bulk" or "grow" you should really be eating 300/300/90. this is not set in stone and ANYONE can correct me here as i am just learning this shit myself but its a start.
if your food choices are right(oats,chicken,turkey breast....you know,your the trainer) you will grow and not gain any bodyfat or little to none anyways because you are using what you are taking in and your body has n o need to store the energy. IF for some reason you started to add a bit of fat, you could do some low intensity cardio to burn off a few calories and not buscle. i personally dont do any cardio while bulking because like you i have a fairly high metabolism and i want gains so i try not to hinder them at all. can always cut later.
i hope this helps bro. anyone that wants to change anything fel free but i think im close
Why are you such an asshat?
If you had any brains you'd listen to the information some knowledgeable people have tried to help you with....instead of arguing with them.
If you're so informed, do it your way....
snigg
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Hi thanks for trying to help seriously it is nice but I did not learn anything I didnt know a long time ago in that.
Hello, thanks to you too for trying to help but , I didnt learn anything new there either and some of what you said was pointless.
not being hungry in the morning is an excuse and no matter how much juice you do, you will not gain LBM if you don't eat. But if you do, you need REAL FOOD, not shakes. Like eggs and Oats
When I say I'm not hungry in the morning, it is not a joke, if I eat more than that I throw up. And I dont care since I can make up for it in my other meals when Im on a bulking diet. The only reason I take a shake in the morning it's because its calorie dense.
waterWater doesn't count as calories. you should be drinking it all day. What kind of potatoes and how much?
I know water contains no calories lol who said it did?? sometimes sweet potatoes and sometimes regular and how much, it depends, maybe 200-300 g.
this meal sucks anus. Drop the shrimp. Add a lean protein like turkey breast, chix, fish, or lean red meat
Just because to you think shrimp sounds gay, doesnt make it a bad food lol. Shrimp IS lean protein. It actually hardly contains anything other than protein.
your gayest meal of the day. tuna and crackers is for people stranded on desert islands, not guys who wanna gain LBM. Drop all of this and add a lean protein and complex carb
Once again, I'm sorry you dont know that but crackers is complex carbs and tuna is lean protein. You will hardly find anything more pure in protein than tuna. Once again the only reason you dont like this meal is because you think it sounds gay but the macronutriments are perfect.
Post workout big protein shake.WTF does this mean? Whats in it?
It contains what every post workout protein shake should contain, and that's simple carbs and protein basically. and water.
around midnight: A big bowl of cereal with some tuna and crackers and some nuts.Again, sucks buttholes. milk and nuts at night is ghey. Hell, I'd even suggest a Casein shake here. But really a lean red meat and some good fats before bed.
What is important is the macronutriments, not if a bodybuilder thinks its gay or not, and BTW nuts is good fat.
not being hungry in the morning is an excuse and no matter how much juice you do, you will not gain LBM if you don't eat. But if you do, you need REAL FOOD, not shakes. Like eggs and Oats
When I say I'm not hungry in the morning, it is not a joke, if I eat more than that I throw up. And I dont care since I can make up for it in my other meals when Im on a bulking diet. The only reason I take a shake in the morning it's because its calorie dense.
waterWater doesn't count as calories. you should be drinking it all day. What kind of potatoes and how much?
I know water contains no calories lol who said it did?? sometimes sweet potatoes and sometimes regular and how much, it depends, maybe 200-300 g.
this meal sucks anus. Drop the shrimp. Add a lean protein like turkey breast, chix, fish, or lean red meat
Just because to you think shrimp sounds gay, doesnt make it a bad food lol. Shrimp IS lean protein. It actually hardly contains anything other than protein.
your gayest meal of the day. tuna and crackers is for people stranded on desert islands, not guys who wanna gain LBM. Drop all of this and add a lean protein and complex carb
Once again, I'm sorry you dont know that but crackers is complex carbs and tuna is lean protein. You will hardly find anything more pure in protein than tuna. Once again the only reason you dont like this meal is because you think it sounds gay but the macronutriments are perfect.
Post workout big protein shake.WTF does this mean? Whats in it?
It contains what every post workout protein shake should contain, and that's simple carbs and protein basically. and water.
around midnight: A big bowl of cereal with some tuna and crackers and some nuts.Again, sucks buttholes. milk and nuts at night is ghey. Hell, I'd even suggest a Casein shake here. But really a lean red meat and some good fats before bed.
What is important is the macronutriments, not if a bodybuilder thinks its gay or not, and BTW nuts is good fat.
Why are you such an asshat?
If you had any brains you'd listen to the information some knowledgeable people have tried to help you with....instead of arguing with them.
If you're so informed, do it your way....
So you think you can come in here having not read anything of the thread and act like a dillhole. I am very open to listening to advice about steroids and if you dont got any of that , well shut the f*** up.
Need2Bshredded
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Just keep it simple bro and start killing bags of chicken breasts and brown rice. Once your eating enough to were you hate life and eating sucks, than maybe you can start taking some juice, but I guarantee you will put on some lean weight eating that shit. And make sure your not over training!
scotimusprime
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well i tried. you say you didnt learn a thing from RJ's post or mine so I dont know what the fuck your problem is.
you know nothing about diet or gear and its gonna stay that way until you take your head out of your ass.
you know nothing about diet or gear and its gonna stay that way until you take your head out of your ass.
Well I know at least what you know and more since you didnt bring me any new infos on diet lol. Neither did the other dude, except that he thinks shrimp and tuna is gay which is complete BS. And that's why I have zero interest in learning what anyone thinks about dieting here. A good bulking diet is what I posted with more volume and maybe another meal. protein is protein, it doesnt need to be freakin' steak all the time and you need to learn that.
Lol another useless twat who has no clue about how the thread went.
scotimusprime
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how the thread went? ur the useless twat that has totally disreguarded EVERYTHING that was said to you in this thread. some one tells you something,and you argue,someones suggests something,and you say you knew that already. fact of the matter is you dont know shit and youre a 160lb pipsqueak who eats like a woman, no a teenage girl
your a fucking idiot dario, plain and simple. and if you know so much about diet, quit saying MACRONUTRIMENTS. there is no such thing.
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
your a fucking dumb ass kid reading from a book-you need more than protein to bulk you skinny punk. i dont care how many meals you add to your diet-its lame-your lame.
no one cares about your diet advice-i weighed more than you when i was 14-go run your sauce-add water for the summer so you can look cool.
no one cares about your diet advice-i weighed more than you when i was 14-go run your sauce-add water for the summer so you can look cool.
how the thread went? ur the useless twat that has totally disreguarded EVERYTHING that was said to you in this thread. some one tells you something,and you argue,someones suggests something,and you say you knew that already. fact of the matter is you dont know shit and youre a 160lb pipsqueak who eats like a woman, no a teenage girl
your a fucking idiot dario, plain and simple. and if you know so much about diet, quit saying MACRONUTRIMENTS. there is no such thing.
OMG are you on a bad PCT and those are the emotions talking right!?
so funny.I dont care about your diet advice that I already know, or your interior decoration advice, or your financial advice, or your relationship advice
All I'm interested about is your steroids knowledge, (eat more when you wanna bulk is not exactly new to anyone, so it's not worth mentionning.)
Oh no lol are you getting aggressive too!? Who said you only needed protein, dude lay off the drugs, you're hallucinating.
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
jjtattoofreak
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^^^^ So Mr roid master can you tell me why you are here asking us bout roids when you say if ya wanted to bulk then youd just add another meal ?? If that is the case then just bulk without roids, I am rather annoyed by your ASSumptions that everyone on here is 300 pounds and a body builder . I for one as are others weigh 185 ..... I ll tell you this tickle dick you need to stop fucking with some of these cats cause your wearing out your mother fucking welcome.... There is no point comming in here stating you want to do roids to gain , but you can gain with just another fucking meal, but problem is you gain only fat but with roids youd just get super muscle ripped... I think you have bumped your fucking head .... your maintaining 160 pounds ?? roids are for when you reach your natural limit, which obvioulsy tou hav not cause you can still just gain when ever you want with an extra girl scout cookie or what ever...I have followed this ASSinine post from day one, you make shit loads of contradictions, I think you are gonna do what ever you would like so go shove roids into your dick hole , get a little swole and then watch your bitch made fucking ass weigh 145 after cycle cause you havent a fucking clue... Also you talk to the homie DET OAK bout layin off the drugs ?? Why you bashin mother fuckers for doing the same drugs your gonna do you punk ass faggoty coward ???? Any way I hope they ban your bitch ass, cause you aint doing shit but running your little girl figured mouth, trying to make ppl tell you oooo bro its ok go and do roids you need em dawg definatly... Fuck your mom , well again anyway ... Peace out
Ok are you actually trying to express that you disagree with that statement!? you know in weirdo language, I mean it's not all you need, but it's a general rule that many many ppl follow and believe in, if you dont agree, doesnt mean youre right dude.
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