No. We believe in blood work. Can you please explain how deca would not cause suppression? Because I've been monitored heavily on a Nandrolone prescription and my '1 dude' is Quest Diagnostics, and he confirms suppression. I have no idea where you come up with this stuff that you're attempting to spread. You need to remember that you're not only dealing with folks your age. There are plenty members who have experienced far more than you could fathom.
As I mentioned in your previous thread. If you're not experiencing libido loss, then you're simply one of the lucky ones (for now). However, after hearing this (and remembering that you said you've had panels drawn), I'm positively convinced that you're stretching the truth. It is not possible to inject Nandrolone without depleting testosterone production. It's the natural human response and it starts in the brain. You're not a magician and you're not the 'one' who managed to defy inevitability.
Again, I'm glad to hear that you haven't suffered any ill effects, however, you're not out of the woods yet. You're incredibly young and you're not backing anything you've said so far with any evidence. I think you're that '1 dude'.
This is really a psychiatric issue. You've convinced yourself that no harm will come your way, and you're on a mission to distribute an incredible level of misinformed-uneducated-evidence-lacking data. If you want to maintain that condition, that's your call. However, I personally appreciate the 'better safe than sorry' approach and I'm confident that the majority shares the same.
Endocrinologists of the highest degrees do not recommend the same methods we advise and use because they're ignorant. Educate yourself.
no no no...
im not trying to convince anyone to do anything or prove anything here... all i said was what i have done and what i have seen on myself.
im not even trying to use people i know as an example.
as you said - im young and all the people i know are 25-40, so sex is very important part of peoples lives at this age... if id have ever felt any supression, any problems getting an erection or any sides after the cycle, i prolly would never touch the shit again.
even such sides as testicular atrophy which is smth everyone is warned about is a side i would never want to experience, cause as you have said many times - im young, im also big, and i have enough money, so the joy of getting my balls sucked by some hot girl is one of the pleasures in life...
with all this disgusting info i gave you, i tried to say that i would never risk on anything, if i had felt any sides... im on and off roids for 5 or even 6 years already, i have done good cycles as much as i have done really idiotic ones with stupid huge doses i would never suggest to anyone.
the thing is - the minute my balls get smaller by a gram, im off roids and never using that shit again... the first time my dick wont be as hard as always - im off roids and never using that shit again... the first minute i feel any kind of test supression after the cycles, im fixin it ASAP and never doin roids again...
i agree with you on "better safe than sorry" but to even more extended level : "dont do smth to be sorry about"... the stuff i said on my prev post was my experience being the guy who would not even bother doin PCTs after cycles if id had any sides... i would never do steroids if id had to take other drugs to get me back on track after the cycle.
you are prolly right on everything you said, but i just want to point out that the dude shouldnt hope to supress his libido, cause i have done as much as 600g of deca with dbol, and never felt any sides... im not superhuman -my genetics are pretty bad, i dont respond well to anything, i was skinny and fat at the same time...you get the point.
im just sayin... no one is getting supressed just cause doctor said so...
hes prolly right... but we will never know to what degree... it is also know that smoking causes early death and cancer yet there are so many people who have smoked their entire life and refuse to die at the age of 80...
we also know that eating tons of bad carbs will get you fat yet i know i guy who got contest ready eating cookies all the time.
we all know we need protein to grow, yet my training partner eats 2 sammiches and some soup during the day and some white potatoes at night, and he is 20lbs heavier and leaner than me... we all know tons of examples of any kind that could be used here...
if doctor said that deca is superssive, then it is supressive... the question is - will me, you or someone else ever experience it so much that we actually feel it? some will, some wont, same with smoking and lung cancer...
