disappointing test levels

lifter85

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I did a 15 week test cycle. 3 weeks after my pct, these are my results. Weird thing is, this was my best pct ever. I only lost 6lbs out of a 22lb gain, and my strength has only dropped about 30lbs off my maxes. You guys think it's going to climb higher over time? I'm 26.
 
I missed your log if you did one. How much test were you running weekly? Your score is dead on what mine was prior to starting my cycle.
 
I would assume so since it has only been 3 weeks. At least your being smart and getting you bloods taken. Also your in normal ranges. I would say that is a good sign.
 
Did you have your test value checked pre-cycle? That might be your natural level. Were you blood tested first thing in the morning?

What's up with your liver values? Running an oral?
 
Did you have your test value checked pre-cycle? That might be your natural level. Were you blood tested first thing in the morning?

What's up with your liver values? Running an oral?

No, unfortunately I never got a test done before my first cycle a few years ago, so I don't know my natty test number. My liver values are slightly high, but I take all kinds of supplements in pill form, caffeine, creatine, pain killers, so who knows what effected that. I got 4 other tests from this year with normal values, although my creatinine levels are always high.
 
I'm not too worried about, I feel great in the gym and I'm putting up heavy weights. I'm starting my next cycle in a month anyways.
 
I agree with Dawg, if you fell great i wouldnt worry too much about the test, results vary bigtime, especially if you do not fast correctly.

i dont think you need even 50mg try 25mg. ive seen guys use 10mg ED and bring up there T 300 points

was it prop?
 
I agree with Dawg, if you fell great i wouldnt worry too much about the test, results vary bigtime, especially if you do not fast correctly.

i dont think you need even 50mg try 25mg. ive seen guys use 10mg ED and bring up there T 300 points

was it prop?

no it was enanthate. Is clomid really that good at bringing up your test levels? I might add that to my next pct.
 
Oak is right. Rui sells their clomid dosed at 35mg/mL and that seems to work fine.

Also, why are you on pain killers? You know that NSAID's totally inhibit gains, right?
 
no it was enanthate. Is clomid really that good at bringing up your test levels? I might add that to my next pct.

for sure clomid works... the pct u ran is not even a "real" pct bro... clomid/nolva would have been much more effective

those "natural test boosters" as u call them are a big no no during pct, can cause u to shut down even more... ur lucky to get out unscathed, seems ur body is coming back nicely... keep training hard and eating lots, progress will keep coming
 
I have to agree with china. Somehow I glossed over the fact that you ran Torem. That was a dumb idea. The natural test booster probably actually had a NEGATIVE effect on your test.

You should have been running nolva/clomid.
 
I don't know guys, I've read multiple studies that torem is just as good as nolva if not better, and not near as toxic. Also read tons of positive pct results from other people using torem. The last two times I used torem my nuts started coming back in like 5 days and I feel great. Also why would a natural test booster like DAA or bioforge be bad to add to your serm?
 
I don't know guys, I've read multiple studies that torem is just as good as nolva if not better, and not near as toxic. Also read tons of positive pct results from other people using torem. The last two times I used torem my nuts started coming back in like 5 days and I feel great. Also why would a natural test booster like DAA or bioforge be bad to add to your serm?

your way obviouslly works SO WELL for you . why argue , several vets and mods reccomended clomid so either try it or not its your choice.
 
your way obviouslly works SO WELL for you . why argue , several vets and mods reccomended clomid so either try it or not its your choice.

Well I don't know what my natural levels are, so your right it might have worked great for me. I'm definitely not arguing, I'm simply asking the reason? I know you must have seen plenty of studies and positive reviews of torem, so I'm just curious. Also just asking a question about the test booster cuz i've never heard that before.
 
Well I don't know what my natural levels are, so your right it might have worked great for me. I'm definitely not arguing, I'm simply asking the reason? I know you must have seen plenty of studies and positive reviews of torem, so I'm just curious. Also just asking a question about the test booster cuz i've never heard that before.

"test boosters " is a wide range of products made by many different people , some may work but some are useless or may make things worse. unless you have a real study on that particular product then its just a crap shoot.
 
yea maan no over the counters. i know what your problem is though, you didnt wait long enough for PCT.

some studies show torem was less effective actually, but people swear by it. it just depends really.

so my opinion

started too early
needed some clomid
 
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