disappointing test levels

yea maan no over the counters. i know what your problem is though, you didnt wait long enough for PCT.

some studies show torem was less effective actually, but people swear by it. it just depends really.

so my opinion

started too early
needed some clomid

Ok, I'll add clomid next time. I thought 12-14 days was when you started pct after test e?
 
Well to be honest I was feeling great on the torem and then got the flu and stopped taking everything. So really I only took the torem for 20 days.
 
My testosterone was 417 pre cycle, and 576 once I recovered... I think maybe it just varies like this up and down the spectrum a little bit... I think the important thing is that you ARE producing testosterone.
 
Aw fuck..I will be 42 soon my test levels have to have all estrogen..im tired all the time and it suck this is why im so happy to get back into lifting and doing self Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) therapy fuck the docs
 
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