DNP log (starting tomorrow, last minute advice?)

[Ghost124]

done tonight, will be off as of tomorrow

I was just about to say, if I was in your shoes I would of stopped about 6 days ago. Between your injury and your sickness, it is not worth staying on. Recover, get better and hop back on in 2 months-that is what I would of done. I respect your fighting spirit to go through something once you start, but if you are just at home and cannot work out you will not really reap the full benefits of DNP. If you are not getting full benefits, the suffering is not worth it.

 

[Ghost124]

I'm also working on an article showing how to use dnp safely & effectively because EDUCATING people is always better than pretending it isn't happening.
But whatever, I'm adding you to my ignore list since you've made it clear that science or my views mean nothing.

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any word when you will post that up? I am starting my DNP cycle Monday. The giant article that I follow from T-Nation on everything I know about DNP has errors according to you. I would love to see your viewpoints on DNP and how you feel it should be done right(no sarcasm intended).

 

[49ER]

So is it poison Or not? I don't wanna be saying something if I'm wrong

 

[China_Wall]

Ok while you do that let me write a article how to use crystal meth safely..... how are you gonna teach somebody to use poison safely? Makes no sense how about teach them diet that you preach about? Bodybuilding should be about bettering your body enhancing your life feeling good being fucken healthy. And to top shit off zilla I bet you have never used dnp and I bet you wouldn't.

And if it is not poison please correct me

"bodybuilding" is NOT about feeling good, it IS about looking good... to achieve the conditioning most only dream of... it makes you feel like absolute depleted crap, but you look fantastic (for a few days at least)

 

[49ER]

"bodybuilding" is NOT about feeling good, it IS about looking good... to achieve the conditioning most only dream of... it makes you feel like absolute depleted crap, but you look fantastic (for a few days at least)

Ya ok so how many days a year does a pro like you feel like crap? For the most part nobody is depleted all the time. So bodybuilding is supposed to make you unhealthy? Or there are people who choose to make bodybuilding unhealthy? Big difference. ...

Go back and read the first page of this thread and tell me op was ready for dnp "because he researched" give me a break

 

[inhaus]

I was just about to say, if I was in your shoes I would of stopped about 6 days ago. Between your injury and your sickness, it is not worth staying on. Recover, get better and hop back on in 2 months-that is what I would of done. I respect your fighting spirit to go through something once you start, but if you are just at home and cannot work out you will not really reap the full benefits of DNP. If you are not getting full benefits, the suffering is not worth it.

the injury was something I had been dealing with for months, I can't just stop everything for it. I could still lift with it and have been for a long time. I've made SIGNIFICANT improvement and all inflammation is gone after starting to use prep H on it, I ordered a compression sleeve for it and I think it'll be gtg with that.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any word when you will post that up? I am starting my DNP cycle Monday. The giant article that I follow from T-Nation on everything I know about DNP has errors according to you. I would love to see your viewpoints on DNP and how you feel it should be done right(no sarcasm intended).

I'm afraid it certainly won't be up anytime soon - other projects are higher on my to do list.

Any questions on your upcoming cycle then simply start up a thread or PM me (if you don't want to deal with BS posts that come with Dnp threads here).

 

[49ER]

I'm afraid it certainly won't be up anytime soon - other projects are higher on my to do list.

Any questions on your upcoming cycle then simply start up a thread or PM me (if you don't want to deal with BS posts that come with Dnp threads here).

Please write up a long scientific post on how I am wrong that dnp is a poison.....

 

[ELIMANNING]

Its common sense..

But to each his own..

He has children, god forbid the mixture is toxic..

Just my 2 cents

 

[JimiThing]

"bodybuilding" is NOT about feeling good, it IS about looking good... to achieve the conditioning most only dream of... it makes you feel like absolute depleted crap, but you look fantastic (for a few days at least)

This is , for better or worse, so true. I ran into a friend of mine from gosh 10 years or so ago. Back then I was totally obsessed with this lifestyle, as was he. I asked him "So how are you feeling?". His reply" Since when is it about how I feel, how do I look?"
That says it all.

 

[inhaus]

May 29th 1st day off

feel nauseous this morning but I have regular stomach issues so could just be that flaring up and unrelated.

couldn't stomach eating anything until 1pm, just had some packaged tuna, still feel tired and weak, nausea is a bit better.

had a very light dinner, very little appetite, feeling a bit of energy return but not much, get out of breath easily and fatigued. no more heat at all or sweating.

after dinner got a boost in energy, almost forgot what it was like to have that insatiable urge to get things done. cleaned the house, did laundry, washed those damn sheets and pillows I pretty much stained, vacuumed, did dishes, feeling good. going to take mrrippedzilla's advice again and stay in deep keto until saturday, planning on doing a very exhausting full body low weight high volume lift saturday then bring carbs in heavy and get back in to my heavier lifts. The weight loss appears insane 1st day off having not really dropped any water weight yet I stepped on my home scale and I can't even believe what it said so I'm not going to speak on it until I get an accurate weight at the gym but holy crap this has far exceeded anything I was hoping for results wise. I do look flat as hell though and am really hoping my muscles are just depleted and flat and will pump back up after a few workouts.

 

[inhaus]

may 29th 2nd day off

woke up feeling like I didn't sleep enough, body is definitely recovering or trying to. last night was the first no sweat night and it was great to be on dry clean sheets. I got up probably 5 times to take a piss so not sure if that's water coming off me or if I just drank a lot of water before bed, I felt very thirsty last night and drank a lot. No nausea this morning. My wife noticed how skinny I look (in a good way) she's usually very harsh with complements and is jelly of my gains so for her to agree that I lost a ton is a good sign that i'm not delusional. I feel good about the weight loss but am eager to get back in the gym and replenish my muscle mass to see where I really stand.

wen't down to the basement and did some warm up weight curls, push downs, flat press, flies etc... just to get the joints moving a bit, man I feel weak as hell. I have been on strict keto today and yesterday as well as most of the time on dnp and I feel just about how I should lol. Hoping to continue tomorrow, hit workout tomorrow night and then get some carbs in. Really looking forward to an accurate weight too.

had salad and proton powder for lunch and wen't down to hit some more very light warm up lifting, i just felt so flat and weak that I wanted to see if my muscles would react to anything. It was hard to get even a slight pump but my muscles did wake up some just from a little bit of movement. didn't stimulate anything or break anything significant down just movement, didn't go over 20lb DBs for anything. side note, my quads feel wrecked, but not like muscle repair wrecked, they are just sore and I haven't done anything to them, traps and upper back a bit too. could that soreness be them repairing themselves from the rapid changes that might have happened in there?


wen't for a swim in the pool after dinner, legs are crazy sore still so lying down the rest of the night. Energy seems ok, it's slowly coming back, took vitamins and going to bed, ear is still plugged but I don't feel sick at all just kind of annoying. Tomorrow I will get an accurate weigh in and a good high rep low weight workout in with a little cardio at the end. Sunday will carb back up and get back to the heavy stuff. I'm going to try and take some pics as of right now, still water bloated a bit, but at the deflated stage, then another pic after I carb up. It'll be interesting to see the weight differences throughout these stages as well.

 

[inhaus]

may 30 day 3 off

woke up feeling better, energy returning. I am just plain ready to get back in the gym which I will do tonight. had breakfast 4 eggs and some bacon. have to go do some work stuff this morning.

just got back, packing up for gym now. will eat a meal before hand probably chicken salad w/vinegar/oil or something. REALLY excited for an official weigh in even though I know DNP is just now fully leaving my system and I still probably have a lot of water on me***8230; I feel like strength will be fine at the gym even though ear is still plugged it's crackling and loosening up a bit today.

Just got back from the gym, weighed in at 266. That is a 19lb loss on a 15 day cycle with 3 days off. My jaw about hit the floor, this is what my home scale was telling me the other day but I almost didn't believe it so I wanted to confirm at the gym with the same balance scale I've been using at the gym for all the weigh ins. The fact that I still have the last bit of DNP in my system being that it stays in system for 3 days and am likely still holding on to a lot of water is even more surreal to me.

My workout wen't ok. Did a good full body workout with low weight and higher rep range (bout 16 reps/set 3-4 sets per major muscle group) My lifts sucked so it's good that this weight was the plan because I just could not have lifted much more any ways. I was lifting at about 60% of my normal rep weight. I still look flat and am clearly weak, but have been on strict keto since coming off (and well before that .) For some reason cardio wen't GREAT probably because I'm about 20lbs lighter! I ran twice as far as normal at higher speeds than normal and my heart rate was much lower than normal.

After workout I had a good carb dinner and will go on moderate carb low fat for tomorrow and hit the gym again to see if strength comes back fully.


Also made a decision about pictures... I will be showing pictures with a shirt on only. I had to blur arm tattoos and there is only more with shirt off so most everything would be blurred anyways. you can actually see more with a shirt on than shirt off. I have a career that might end up putting me in the public eye and I do not want any possibility of this coming up in my personal life. I took the first pic the week I started DNP, the 2nd one today, and will take another 7-8days off DNP. I know there are better poses and better ways to show you guys but it's just not gonna happen any other way so please don't harp for better pics. I'll post them all at the end so they're all in one place.

 

[49ER]

That's alot of weight hopefully most is fat, I'd never take that route but if it's mostly fat and you keep it off that's pretty awsome. You should wear a tight shirt or wife beater to really get an idea of the difference in size.

 

[inhaus]

That's alot of weight hopefully most is fat, I'd never take that route but if it's mostly fat and you keep it off that's pretty awsome. You should wear a tight shirt or wife beater to really get an idea of the difference in size.

I will do that for the last pic but can't change the first two now. I should mention that the first pic is in a xxl shirt, 2nd pic is in an xl and I'll do 3rd in a l. you can see the difference enough to know something happened in the first two and can tell my muscle mass is similar, it looks like all of the weight came off my mid section and legs, but again hard to tell with all the water still.

 

[inhaus]

May 31 4th day off

woke up feeling good, yesterday I could still feel the weakness a bit. Today I feel pretty much back to normal. Not sure if that's due to the DNP being completely out of my system or if it's because of bringing carbs back. I woke up feeling a bit skinny in the mid section. Looking at some pics I've taken I seem to be carrying more flub in my hips and moob area than normal so I'm hoping that's water and will fall off in the next few days. I do notice my stomach area is tighter today. My back and chest is pretty sore today so I'll probably focus on whatever body parts are feeling strong today and then get back to my regular heavy back/chest day tomorrow. I am going to try and get a weigh in at the gym every day from here out.

Just got back from the gym, strength & muscle seem to be in tact, reps/sets were on par with average before DNP. 100lb tricep push downs 3 sets of 12, 40lb forearm curls, I took it easy on bicep curls since I am still rehabbing that elbow, but it's 90% gtg, I think that prep H did more for it than those damn expensive PT visits but whatever. did pyramid sets DB curls up to 45lbs, EZ bar up to 80lb, elbow felt good but started pinching at the end of session so I immediately stopped increasing weight and moved on. Did some leg press but nothing heavy (bad left knee.) I was running around super setting the entire gym for like an hour lol, time FLEW by and I had the energy and just didn't realize how long I was doing this stuff for. I hopped on the treadmill and banged out 30 mins on there (again WAY more than normal) ever since this weight came off it's been a breeze running so I'll pick up the slack and just increase cardio to compensate for the weight loss. I weighed in at 268 today, could that be because I brought the carbs back in and muscles are filling out again? Not worried about it either way though I've been eating in deficit, hitting the gym hard, and will continue sticking to the plan.

All in all I feel great, energy is back to near 100%, lifts do not seem to have suffered but I was mostly doing secondary lifts today, tomorrow will tell the tale for sure. If I can do my regular sets of 225 on bench and row what I normally do, I'll be shocked. I am going to guess that I'll be able to put the weight up but I highly doubt I'll be able to keep up with sets having had time away from the gym for being sick.

 

[halfwit]

Yeah, it took me a solid two weeks to see all the water fall off. Just be sure to keep drinking plenty of water to help your body to continue flushing it out.

 

[inhaus]

macros for my carb day today, did not realize how low I am on protein even with 4 servings of powder... probably gonna scarf some lunch meats or something tonight to make up for it.

CARB MACROS CALS FAT CARB PROTEIN

wheat pancakes..360....16......44.........10
syrup.................200..............53
roast beef...........200.....5...................25
cheese...............200.....18.................14
bbq....................30................6
lettuce
4 proton sludge...500......6.......24........80
bkd brded chickn.248.....13.......8...........15

sweet pot. fries...103.....2.4.....18.8.......1.8



totals................1843...60.4....153.8.....145.8

 

[inhaus]

June 1st 5th day off

Feel great today, my body is doing great stuff. Muscles continuing to fill in and water continuing to drop. I'm looking bigger in the places I was hoping would stay big and smaller in the places I wanted to be smaller. I am hoping to do a pretty heavy chest/back day.

huge potential deal at work today, not sure if I'll be doing anything today, kind of last minute but it's important enough to take over my entire life for the next 36 hours or so

work screwed entire day, didn't eat or drink enough skipped meals. and certainly didn't do any lifting although my day was very physical and probably equivalent to doing a good deal of card

June 2nd 6th day off

I have work stuff again today, really poor timing but I'm going back on keto since who knows what I'll have time to actually do today, no point in eating carbs if I'm not going to lift. today is either busy or slow and I won't know until the last minute so I'm hoping I can get what I have to get done and then have some time to head to the basement and get some lifts in, energy is good. an early summary would be that strength loss is minimal if at all with low/moderate DNP dose. I feel weakest on bench but I can row just fine as well as all other lifts being normal.


Got a mid day lift in at home. Kind of what I thought would happen. I can press about the same weight, just not as many reps so definitely a little weak. Rows are pretty close to normal. Having recovered from a lot of sickness and setbacks I bet it will take me a full week of lifting to get back to full strength so there is a SLIGHT loss of strength for me, but nothing substantial. Hopefully going to gym this evening for another session and cardio.

Just got back from gym, I feel like I was in some kind of time warp, I ended up lifting for almost 2 1/2 hours which is excessive IMO. flat bench was about what I expected, hit 225 but could only get 3 reps out when normally I'm at 7-12. Everything else seemed pretty comparable to before DNP. Hit cardio for 20 mins, felt good. Just got home it's 11, going to bed. crazy busy week, hopefully get pics tomorrow or thursday. Having a huge party this weekend for both of my kids birthdays so we have all kinds of cleaning, landscaping, planning etc. going on.

 

[inhaus]

pics and final thoughts

alright, forgive the update being a few days late... life has been crazy these last few days, kids b day party lots of planning etc...

Here are the pics as promised (too many identifying marks on me to have no shirt, deal with it they are what they are and I won't be taking more)

1st one is day 1 on DNP

2nd is 3 days after stopping DNP (19lbs lighter)

3rd is 9 days after stopping DNP (19lbs lighter)

4th is 10 days after stopping side pic (20lbs lighter)

5th is an up close shot of my forearm, I know that without a before on this one you can't tell much and honestly the lighting in the pic sucks and isn't very accurate. before starting I had visible veins, but now when I get a pump going they actually pop out for about 3" around my elbow joint, this never used to happen and it gives me a weird feeling in my pants so back off. Yea I know no big deal for you, but for a guy who was 50lbs heavier 6 months ago you just let me have my moment here!


Before the BF% comments just know IDGAF honestly... It's ridiculous in my mind to try and do from a picture and I don't care. I have a lot of weight to lose I know that so I don't need a number to tell me that even more, I've done well so far and will continue to drop the fat regardless. I have never done any PEDs and have been lifting for 6 months so keep that in mind.


What did I supplement on DNP?

vitamins I always take
1200 IU of E
1500mg B3 (Niacin)
3000mg C
4800mg fish oil (natures bounty)
5000mg B12
5000IU D3
50mg zinc
dymatize elite protein powder


things added for the DNP cycle

1200mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
1000mg Taurine


Final thoughts about DNP

water weight?... I was 19lbs down pretty much the day after I stopped dosing. That weight stayed the same until I had a carb day. I didn't over do it, just had a burger and fries. I was REALLY good about my diet on DNP so figured I'd have a nice dinner as a treat. I gained 4lbs that night... after going back in keto that weight came right back off after a couple days so not sure if that was glycogen/water weight? as it stands 10 days off I dropped another lb so I'm down 20lbs as of today but I have been hitting the gym hard every day and cardio every day so probably just my continued work showing up. I didn't notice the huge water weight drop, I noticed my body looking better, but not really lbs on the scale.


Were the sides really uncomfortable?
nah, not really. I found them to be very mild. I sweat a lot for sure, but I honestly didn't feel that hot. It felt like a sun burn at it's hottest. I had NO cravings to speak of in fact I had trouble eating and was in a deep deficit a lot of the time because I just didn't want to eat. I also slept like a baby and even napped throughout the day... Remember I can only speak for THIS DNP, not the DNP you scored off ebay from china. This was from an expensive reliable well known source, many say it is under dosed and it is blended with supporting vitamins and other things... I am actually wondering if some of the things blended in there cause appetite suppression and sleep aid because it was like taking ambian and the appetite suppresion was STRONG. My sides experienced are not typical and should not be expected, some people get hot as hell, but I do believe this to be diet related. If I ate a carb meal I heated up pretty darn good, If you are going to eat a ton of carbs or even 100g carbs/day you might be super hot. If you do straight keto (20-40g carb/day) you will feel hypoglycemic, but like 3xs as bad as you would without DNP. I almost fainted in a grocery store and was very dizzy after a few days with no carbs, after a carb meal clarity would come back to me and I felt much better. Again these are just my experiences and might not be the same for others.

Would I take DNP again?

yup. I would, but I would only take it after losing another big chunk of fat naturally. If you are one of those invincible people who has to take as much as you can tolerate this is the WRONG compound for you to screw with. I had very little sides and discomfort and the results blew me away. SIDES DO NOT EQUAL RESULTS. I believe you will have a MUCH better experience at a low dose still being able to hit the gym and do cardio than lying in your bed immobilized with a fan on you all day because you decided to try 750/day.


Final thoughts
This stuff will kill you if you don't respect it, period. Don't screw around with it thinking you're going to push the limits and come out there other end looking like captain america, for fatties it will assist you in dropping a good amount of weight to SUPPLEMENT your weight loss. As many have said this is not a solution to you being fat, it's an aid, a tool that can be used responsibly to benefit your overall program... it should not be THE program.

****safety note****
I am a parent and I'm sure many others out there are as well. Do not just think about yourself, think about EVERYONE around you. Think of these possibilities. You leave it in your drawer by your bed, your toddler/5 year old goes in there and finds some yellow candy = ... You have your bottle with you in your hotel room on vacation, you accidentally leave it, stupid kid thinks it's shady looking drugs, takes one to see what it does, doesn't notice anything, takes a handful to see if it's just weak... dies... See what I'm saying? YOU know what it does, this stuff should be hidden in a safe like a vial of the plague from people who don't know what it is. Put it in a safe if you have one or somewhere FAR out of reach and sight.


Thanks to everyone who gave good advice through this process especially to Mrrippedzilla.

This is only the beginning of my journey, hopefully you'll be seeing update pics of me on stage somewhere a year from now!