Do HRT patients ever do Cycles?

[synonymous]

With endocrine systems already sensitive and constantly looking for that right balance, I wonder if anyone on here has every THEN added more test and done a cycle only to go BACK to TRT and skipping the PCT (OR keeping the PCT until they level off to what they were pre-cycle).

I'm not sure if this particular topic is a controversial one for the board. I've often thought (Key word there being 'thought') about doing a cycle but figured in the end that getting myself normalized in my labs took priority to a cycle. Still, is it uncommon? More common? Has anyone here done it? Is it even a good idea for someone on HRT or more damaging BECAUSE of HRT?

 

[tbonexl]

Some do it all the time. Keywords blast&cruise

 

[Megatron28]

Moving this to the AAS forum.

 

[Austinite]

Yes.

 

[synonymous]

Is there anything different when it comes to HRT and doing a cycle? Added dangers, benefits?

 

[Austinite]

Is there anything different when it comes to HRT and doing a cycle? Added dangers, benefits?

No.

 

[m314]

Is there anything different when it comes to HRT and doing a cycle? Added dangers, benefits?

The biggest benefit is that you don't need PCT. You can also keep more of your gains, since you won't go through a period of low testosterone after the cycle. That's why so many people blast and cruise instead of doing PCT and coming off for a while.

 

[Austinite]

The biggest benefit is that you don't need PCT. You can also keep more of your gains, since you won't go through a period of low testosterone after the cycle. That's why so many people blast and cruise instead of doing PCT and coming off for a while.

Why would you go through a period of low testosterone after the cycle? Some HRT patients maintain levels around ~600 ng/dl, such as myself. Not exactly rocket fuel.

Loss of gains has everything to do with your diet and training post cycle, and most folks mistake fat and water for muscle. Muscle doesn't evaporate on it's own, they just didn't gain as much as they assume.

 

[m314]

Why would you go through a period of low testosterone after the cycle? Some HRT patients maintain levels around ~600 ng/dl, such as myself. Not exactly rocket fuel.

Loss of gains has everything to do with your diet and training post cycle, and most folks mistake fat and water for muscle. Muscle doesn't evaporate on it's own, they just didn't gain as much as they assume.

You lose gains when you come down to natural test levels after pushing yourself past your natural limit. There's no way around it. You can't maintain "unnatural" amounts of muscle with natty test levels. No diet and training program will let a lean 300 pound bodybuilder maintain that with test levels in the normal range.

Guys not on TRT can lose more muscle in the early part of PCT, since it can take time to get your natural test production back to what it was. That depends on how fast you recover. You don't have to worry about the recovery stage with TRT. You go from supraphysiological levels back down to your TRT level without going through weeks of low test. You don't have to lose gains at all in that case unless you're beyond your natural limit.

 

[Austinite]

You lose gains when you come down to natural test levels after pushing yourself past your natural limit. There's no way around it. You can't maintain "unnatural" amounts of muscle with natty test levels. No diet and training program will let a lean 300 pound bodybuilder maintain that with test levels in the normal range.

Guys not on TRT can lose more muscle in the early part of PCT, since it can take time to get your natural test production back to what it was. That depends on how fast you recover. You don't have to worry about the recovery stage with TRT. You go from supraphysiological levels back down to your TRT level without going through weeks of low test. You don't have to lose gains at all in that case unless you're beyond your natural limit.

Who said anything about past natural limit? Those cases are entirely rare. Nothing you said above about TRT patients is true really. You can maintain lean tissue with as little as 400 ng/dl, which is low.

 

[aitchfourex]

This is just B&C isn't it?