Roush
I am banned!
No prob.. Punk kid is soo tuff behind his key board
Does anyone have any good explanation as to why this is happening.
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No prob.. Punk kid is soo tuff behind his key board
Roush
I am banned!
Ever notice that in the USA poor people on welfare or getting food stamps are usually fat... While the poor people in Ethiopia are skinny as a pole
Milton
Administrator
Lets compare their diets shall we...
Milton
Administrator
ok I rephrase, real home-cooked Chinese food. You buy it and cook it. damn, they strained the gutter water for oil? wow, remind me never to eat at Kentucky fried chicken then. lol
tury694
Pale Gorilla
People here eat like some savage animals. We consume more sugar than anyone in the world. Ethiopians are also skinnier because they can't afford enough food. If they could they would probably get fat in due time. Something about American culture has made it ok to eat huge amounts of food and then expect no problems to come from it. Higher bodyfat does lower test levels so this could be one of the culprits too.
Milton
Administrator
you reap what you sow.... lol
Megatron28
Moderator
Let me give you a hint. You will be the only non-asian guy in the restaurant.
Mrrippedzilla
MIA - PM only
It has nothing to do with the "culture", its called biology.
Over thousands of years your body has evolved in a environment where food is scarce & you must eat as much as you can because you never know when your going to find it again. This is why your body wont fight with you when your gaining fat but will if you attempt to lose it.
Now, the western environment has evolved into a state where food is everywhere - NOT just processed food, I can literally order whatever I want sitting on my ass with just a few clicks of a button.
Well, biological human evolution takes thousands of years to occur. Environmental evolution can happen instantaneously - do you see where I'm going with this?
To put it simply, human biology hasn't caught up to the fact that food is now readily available and there is no need to keep asking for it.
This means your body still wants to eat whenever it can, combine this with the fact that food is available whenever you want it and you have an obesity crisis on your hands.
Obesity is a known cause for lower testosterone levels.
Obesity, and higher levels of fat in general, are also a known cause of puberty starting earlier.
So for those wondering why all of this is happening...
Your body cant evolve as quickly as your environment can. Its that simple.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
I get what you're saying but other developed countries like France and Greece don't have as many fat people as the United States, but some poorer countries like Cuba and Trinidad and Tobago are full of fatties. Something other than human biology alone is making them fat. Not to say that your argument for human nature does not make sense as the whole world is getting fatter, but some countries with the same development as America are more fit.
DickBlazer
New member
Soy in foods
Plastic bottles
Higher sodium diets
Less physical jobs
Half the men in the world on on some form of medication
Flouride in water and countless other drinks
Increased electro magnetic waves
Who really knows. I do think soy fucks me up though
Plastic bottles
Higher sodium diets
Less physical jobs
Half the men in the world on on some form of medication
Flouride in water and countless other drinks
Increased electro magnetic waves
Who really knows. I do think soy fucks me up though
Mrrippedzilla
MIA - PM only
Your missing the forest for the trees man.
I'm not saying that cultural differences are irrelevant when it comes to looking at the differences in obesity rates for developed countries.
I'm saying that they become relevant ONLY due to the inability of our bodies to evolve quickly.
If your body was able to evolve & adapt quickly to an environment where food is abundant would obesity be an issue?
No, because it would be able to send the correct hormonal signals to your brain to get you to shut your mouth and stop eating - regardless of cultural factors.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Of course, I wish evolution occurred faster so I can stuff my face with burgers, steak and mashed potatoes. I understand your point that our bodies were built to deal with an environment where getting food is difficult, thus we keep eating because our body tells us that stuffing our faces is good.
Milton
Administrator
our bodies dont tell us to stuff our faces, its ALL the media that tells us to stuff our faces. Ad after ad after ad after ad.... until you descend into the ninth circle of hell and bump into....
Gbrad
Member
Well I'm gonna eat some house fried rice tonight, no onions. So I'm gonna agree w ya on that one though I may be a wee bit biased!!
There are some smaller devolved countries that take fitness very serious. In Norway if you become obese to an unhealthy level determined by the doctors there. The government will pay your salary for 2 years for you literally to workout and get in shape and then return to your job after you are back to a healthy weight. Some countries take stayin healthy serious. Then there is the u.s.a. Where obesity is normal and accepted. Being a shredded muscular m.f. Is more of an oddity then being obese. Someone who is in great shape and has more muscles will be noticed more the someone who is way overweight because the muscular im shape person is more rare.
Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
we brought up the changes in food quality, chemicals dna pesticides processed garbage and sugar addiction..
touched briefly on human beings as a species, and the lack of adaptations to match the changes in society
the thing i haven't heard brought up is the eclipsing of natural selection
for 60,000 year human beings survived as hunter gatherers. harsh demanding environments where only the very strongest ( and clever) survived to pass on genetic information. traits such a courage physical strength intelligence and dexterity were determining factors in the ultimate survival of any genetic line. farming and animal husbandry has been around only a few thousand years,the industrial age only the last century, now humanity has entered a digital technology age.
while arguably the human animal hasn't physically adapted or changed a great deal in the last 50,000 years. i think we are beginning to see areas of a devolution of our species,
without natural selection eliminating the weaker members of a population, the population as a whole grows weaker. fucking fact
while it sounds spartan and cruel, all of the people who need modern medications to survive on a day to day basis, all of the populations who rely on welfare to eat , all of these people would not have survived even as little as a 100 years ago - in todays world they are thriving and increasing their number exponentially.
except for darwinism on a small scale, like bigger biceps here flushing his reproductive system down the drain, there are millions of fuckers like that idiot breeding out of control. the state will coddle them and their offspring and we have an exponential increase int he number of fucktards very quickly.. now i am not saying the weak or infirm or even the stupid - should be left to die - merely an observation here...
touched briefly on human beings as a species, and the lack of adaptations to match the changes in society
the thing i haven't heard brought up is the eclipsing of natural selection
for 60,000 year human beings survived as hunter gatherers. harsh demanding environments where only the very strongest ( and clever) survived to pass on genetic information. traits such a courage physical strength intelligence and dexterity were determining factors in the ultimate survival of any genetic line. farming and animal husbandry has been around only a few thousand years,the industrial age only the last century, now humanity has entered a digital technology age.
while arguably the human animal hasn't physically adapted or changed a great deal in the last 50,000 years. i think we are beginning to see areas of a devolution of our species,
without natural selection eliminating the weaker members of a population, the population as a whole grows weaker. fucking fact
while it sounds spartan and cruel, all of the people who need modern medications to survive on a day to day basis, all of the populations who rely on welfare to eat , all of these people would not have survived even as little as a 100 years ago - in todays world they are thriving and increasing their number exponentially.
except for darwinism on a small scale, like bigger biceps here flushing his reproductive system down the drain, there are millions of fuckers like that idiot breeding out of control. the state will coddle them and their offspring and we have an exponential increase int he number of fucktards very quickly.. now i am not saying the weak or infirm or even the stupid - should be left to die - merely an observation here...
carverelli
I am banned!
Don't leave mad son, just leave
Teutonic
New member
Exactly boss. Evolution theory is correct however as our energies and minds are now free to explore other avenues...moreadvanced societies..not as materialistic and more concerned w longevity than either stuffing their faces either as there is something missing in their lives...sex...satisfaction...hobbies...just lazy...America Mexico...
In MOST euro countries the vast majority of people are slim and trim...Denmark, Germany, Japan, Switz, Sweden etc. Our poor are obese. Paraguay s poor are rail thin. Our liberalists have given us the mindset that just surviving child birth entitles everyone to food shelter, a/c, cable tv, a free phone..an Escalade w a tv and there is a clear connection to voluntary obesity, bad credit, crime and demographics.
Some will say that s racist or pre judice but the facts are there...lack of self control in what you put in your mouth, how many kids u have vs those you can care for and an unwillingness to pay your way and support your offspring and crime.
Stupid life long welfare recipients should not breed. An IQ test should be recquired as we are pushing for mediocrity to outbreed the smart sharp who are forced into paying for them to continue the cycle through forced charitable contributions to the losers of the world. We breed smarter dogs and horses...it s time to trim the humans and cull them too.
Megatron28
Moderator
Interesting that you bring up the point that the poor in the US are obese.
In the US we subsidize corn and sugar agriculture as part of the Farm Bills Congress passes. This means that if you are poor, buying junk food at McDonalds that is high in calories is much cheaper than going to the grocery store and buying fresh food to cook. So if you are trying to feed a family of 4 and you are poor, your best bang for the buck calorie-wise is to hit up the McDonald's Dollar Value Menu. Lots of calories but little in the way of healthy nutrients. We should be subsidizing Romaine Lettuce and Brussels Sprouts instead of corn syrup and sugar beets/cane.
This is a very complicated problem. Food economic policy. Chemicals. Societal changes. Evolution. Education. Distribution (i.e. Food deserts). Not to mention pussyfication.
