Dr. Wants to put me on Lipitor WTF

[monstro54245]

Dr. Wants me to go on Lipitor

Got a call from Dr. last night. gave me a bean about cholestrol levels being very high, glucose higher than he'd want, and Test levels above the roof.
Wants me to go on lipitor while I'm still on. Told him to be expected considering he tested me about mid-cycle(test of course going to be high), and had not fasted so glucose level was going to be high since I had just had a 58 gm protien shake with peanut butter and chocolate syrup(so glucose going to be high). Been eating flank steak every day for entire cycle (least 2 mpd).
Anyways, WTF do I go on this Lipitor shit while I finish of the cycle or are there any other alternatives.

 

[Aztech]

will it affect gains? if it won't, i'd go on it to be safe. otherwise, you can always get the scipt and not take it....if you know these aren't your actual levels. Or, option three, get retested.

 

[DADAWG]

Dr. Wants me to go on Lipitor

Got a call from Dr. last night. gave me a bean about cholestrol levels being very high, glucose higher than he'd want, and Test levels above the roof.
Wants me to go on lipitor while I'm still on. Told him to be expected considering he tested me about mid-cycle(test of course going to be high), and had not fasted so glucose level was going to be high since I had just had a 58 gm protien shake with peanut butter and chocolate syrup(so glucose going to be high). Been eating flank steak every day for entire cycle (least 2 mpd).
Anyways, WTF do I go on this Lipitor shit while I finish of the cycle or are there any other alternatives.

usually test isnt what wrecks the lipds/cholesterol , its usually orals , especially winnie and some ant estrogens will create lipid trouble as well . are you takeing anti estrogens ?

 

[monstro54245]

At the time was on dbol, test, deca and popped nolva every once in a while if I started to get dreams of being a swimsuit model, then when ran out went on Prenynl 1/2 ml 500mg oe3d. Now on winnie 1/2 ml e3d.

 

[DADAWG]

At the time was on dbol, test, deca and popped nolva every once in a while if I started to get dreams of being a swimsuit model, then when ran out went on Prenynl 1/2 ml 500mg oe3d. Now on winnie 1/2 ml e3d.

winnie is just about the worst on cholesterol . i would definately drop the winnie . some say nolva is actually good for cholesterol unlike adex /etc. .

 

[roccodart440]

winnie is just about the worst on cholesterol . i would definately drop the winnie . some say nolva is actually good for cholesterol unlike adex /etc. .

I've read it increases HDL. Adex/letro are bad on lipids. Aromasin for the win.

 

[monstro54245]

Just got back from his office , copied up old thread on Policosanol and gave it to him, told me o.k. if was comfortable with it and it's o.c., so now that I only have 2 more weeks on cycle. Do I stop the winnie and just do the test cyp only? or Do I keep going with what I have post cycle therapy (pct), and all and add the Policosanol.? Have been taking niacin non--flush, b-6,foilc acid, and fish oil since begining of cycle. Or Go as roccodart suggested Aromasin for the winnie.?

 

[macro]

sesapure for cholesterol
Glucorell for blood glucose
Fish oil- will help a little with both
Lecithin- liver, can help with cholesterol
Oats- or oat fiber (tabs are fine)- will lower cholesterol
Cardio- will help with cholesterol and blood glucose

drop the Winstrol (winny), if you want any kind of normal levels. Even with all those reccs, Winstrol (winny) will give you bad results (yes they will be better, but they will still be bad)

 

[monstro54245]

blood glucose was probably from injesting the shake before the test.
will start more cardio alerady shit 10 x day if I eat anymore fiber will have to spend less $ on gear and gym time and more on Depends.
How about Liverite 3 in 1 for Manly Men.

 

[Megadeus1977]

Dr. Wants me to go on Lipitor

Got a call from Dr. last night. gave me a bean about cholestrol levels being very high, glucose higher than he'd want, and Test levels above the roof.
Wants me to go on lipitor while I'm still on. Told him to be expected considering he tested me about mid-cycle(test of course going to be high), and had not fasted so glucose level was going to be high since I had just had a 58 gm protien shake with peanut butter and chocolate syrup(so glucose going to be high). Been eating flank steak every day for entire cycle (least 2 mpd).
Anyways, WTF do I go on this Lipitor shit while I finish of the cycle or are there any other alternatives.

View This site:
http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/139/9/792

The Pharmaceutical-industrial complex is not your friend, and your doctor is most likely a shill for them. I almost certainly guarantee that the friendly drug rep that drops the samples off at his office is also dropping off a fat check as well. I would wait til end of cycle and let things return to normal on their own. What your friends at Pfizer dont want you to know is that it can/will cause SERIOUS neuromuscular issues. I have read that grape seed extract and chromium supplementation help to reduce cholesterol. also dietary modification. Just google it. Im no doctor, just my .02 worth.

 

[GymLift]

I almost certainly guarantee that the friendly drug rep that drops the samples off at his office is also dropping off a fat check as well.

Sorry, this is complete bullshit. It just isn't true, simple as that.

 

[pineapple]

Sorry, this is complete bullshit. It just isn't true, simple as that.

I'd have to disagree. It's not exactely as he says but he's close

 

[macro]

Sorry, this is complete bullshit. It just isn't true, simple as that.

there are all kinds of kickbacks with doctors and pharm reps. usually its more subtle than a check/cash, but sure that happens as well.

 

[Skarhead1]

dadawg is pretty much right. For most people test shouldnt really effect the lipids too much. The dbol definately can and Winstrol (winny) is probably the #1 steroid that kills lipids.

 

[Bimmer]

Sorry, this is complete bullshit. It just isn't true, simple as that.

Its not as open as that but its in the doctors best intrest to promote a certain brand. They always throwing samples at you even if you dont need them, and also have a particular drug they like to prescribe all the time. An example is when I go to one doctor she would always unload the same exact samples on me saying"I might need them later" even after I told her I still have a bunch left from when she gave me last time, and as far as scripts go she had one favorite drug she would write out no matter if I had a cold, flu, or an ear infection. If I asked for a differant drug I knew worked better for me from a differant doc she wouldnt budge for shit. When I go to a differant doc he has his favorite set of drugs and does the same. One time I asked for some generic vicodin for my ear infection, I mentioned a name I knew, he would insist on a differant generic. I asked him why but he wouldnt give a stright awnser, if it made no differance to him why couldnt he write the name I mentioned.
Im sure something similar has happend to most of you. And if that doesnt convince you my friends wife is a general doctor, she told me that some (not all) doctors get some sort of commision on the side based on how well they promote samples they give out , also little things like paid trips so long as they agree to use this drug "A" made by them instead of "B" which another pharmecutical produces.

 

[freak42]

O.k. So I start ths post cycle therapy (pct) early than. dosage? I have Nolva 20mg, what 1 per day?

 

[GymLift]

there are all kinds of kickbacks with doctors and pharm reps. usually its more subtle than a check/cash, but sure that happens as well.

No.

Look. Drug reps give out drug samples. And they give out stuff that advertises the drug name: soap dispensers, plastic cups, pens, clipboard, et al.

But the drug companies would be fucking stupid to give out cash money. And there is no evidence that they do ... if there was, you better believe the media would be all the fuck over it.

If any of you have evidence as to otherwise, then please report it to the police and the media.

 

[monstro54245]

winnie is just about the worst on cholesterol . i would definately drop the winnie . some say nolva is actually good for cholesterol unlike adex /etc. .

1st advice best advice, So do I stop cycle and start post cycle therapy (pct) early.?

 

[DADAWG]

there are all kinds of kickbacks with doctors and pharm reps. usually its more subtle than a check/cash, but sure that happens as well.

vacations are common .

 

[GymLift]

vacations are common .

This is true. The drug companies will do this, for example, to get the ear of a busy physician. But all that this really buys them is time with the physician ... time during which the physician isn't making any money because they aren't seeing patients.