Dream or Pipe Dream...Long R3?

[slicli]

Dream or Pipe Dream...IGF-1 Long R3?

Which is it, or is it somewhere in the middle?

My research of IGF-1 Long R3 has led me to struggle with the following, to name a few:

1)Builds NEW muscle muscle cells from satalite cells
2)Increases appetite
3)Builds mass
4)Burns mucho fat
5)All of the above at the same time ALL BY ITSELF with marked improvments within the first week
6)Not only elminate the need for traditional post cycle therapy (pct) (clomid and hcg) but keep the gains commin post cycle and bring your boys back online like nothing happened.
7)Increase slin sensitivity thus rendering the benifits of siln without having to use it.
8)REPAIRS NERVES!! or better yet the spinal chord!! i will tell you this...i was in a very bad motorcycle accident in 95 and in surgery the doctor had to cut a major nerve that rendered the surface of my right leg numb. i was told that i will never have feeling again and that has proven to be the case for 8 years. it will be interesting to see if i regain feeling.

 

[JohnnyB]

Not sure about 7 but the others all look good, 6 if no juice is used.

JohnnyB

 

[Trevdog]

Re: Dream or Pipe Dream...IGF-1 Long R3?

I've posted about my 2 week experiment with it during post cycle therapy (pct) but here are a few comments based on your notes...




1)Builds NEW muscle muscle cells from satalite cells

Can't say, but I gained weight and vascularity while looking fuller, during a time I should have been doing none of the above.

2)Increases appetite

Big time.

3)Builds mass

Yes.

4)Burns mucho fat

Not sure. The experiment was too short - 1 mg. over 2 weeks.

5)All of the above at the same time ALL BY ITSELF with marked improvments within the first week

I gained 5 lbs. in the first week.

6)Not only elminate the need for traditional post cycle therapy (pct) (clomid and hcg) but keep the gains commin post cycle and bring your boys back online like nothing happened.

Not sure what it did to my HPTA. I wouldn't assume that I shouldn't go with my normal post cycle therapy (pct) regimen.


7)Increase slin sensitivity thus rendering the benifits of siln without having to use it.

It does increase insulin sensitivity.


8)REPAIRS NERVES!!

I don't know. According to animal this takes 4-6 weeks, I didn't go that long and wouldn't really know anyway.

 

[dirty-dog]

Insulin like Growth Factor - Long chain (R3 IGF-1)

interesting stuff but i need to hear more testomonials and long term effects before i'd use it.

 

[slicli]

silver, from what i gather its basically synthetic ifg-1 with a MUCH longer half-life.

and from what i gather natural igf-1 is either what the liver destroys GH into or what the liver is requested to release at GH's command.

i also gather that ifg-1 is the "magic" in GH. ive read that 1 iu of GH converts to 2-4mcg of igf-1 (which has like a 20 min half-life). the starting dose for R3 is 20mcg ed which is about the equivelint of 5 iu GH a day BUT R3 has like a 20-30 hr half life which changes everything.

my animal will be trying it next week @40mcg's for 50 days....he is very VERY interested to see what it will do with his nerve damage.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Insulin like Growth Factor - Long chain (R3 IGF-1)

interesting stuff but i need to hear more testomonials and long term effects before i'd use it.

Same here.....supposedly it can cause all organs to grow....and there is that persistant tumor rumor that no one wants to talk about.

 

[needsize]

it sounds like a miracle drug, anything that good has to have some bad sides we dont know about...figures though, I finally get a cheap source for gh and now theres something better

 

[DADAWG]

it sounds like a miracle drug, anything that good has to have some bad sides we dont know about...figures though, I finally get a cheap source for gh and now theres something better

no shit , i have the same luck , sometimes your the bug and sometimes your the windshield , but im gonna wait before i jump on the igf bandwagon until its passed the test of time

 

[WI]

Same here.....supposedly it can cause all organs to grow....and there is that persistant tumor rumor that no one wants to talk about.

First time I heard about this, I'll hold of and see what other people report!

slicli keep us posted!

 

[slicli]

i will keep you posted, im a little scared so i will proceed with caution...

i have high hopes for it in a couple ways, i am begining to experience bone deterioration in the hip that was fractured and i constantly battle the depression associated with the thought of a hip transplant at such a young age. so im hoping that it helps with that and i would love to be able to feel my right leg again....

but i will maintain a skeptical mindset, cause as needsize said, it sounds too good to be true.

 

[LAWNSAVER]

This is a tough one! I think the problems are arrising with high doses combined with GH. I would stick to 20mcgs 2x a day for no longer than 50 days. As for the GH, I wouldnt go over 3ius ED while on it!

 

[E-Swift25]

This is a tough one! I think the problems are arrising with high doses combined with GH. I would stick to 20mcgs 2x a day for no longer than 50 days. As for the GH, I wouldnt go over 3ius ED while on it!

LAWNSAVER, how would you recommend IGF incorporated into a stack?

 

[Ken]

LAWNSAVER, how would you recommend IGH incorporated into a stack?

I think most are saying to bridge it.. I am going to get mine delivered Mon. and will take it all by itself just the the fuk of it.. I want to see what the hoopla really is about this stuff..

I will start my online Journal as soon as I start it..

 

[E-Swift25]

Defintely keep us posted

 

[Trevdog]

I am dreaming of a stack.

75 mg. prop ed
75 mg. tren ed
50 mg. masteron eod
IGF 40-80 mcg. ed (4 weeks at a time)
GH 4 ius ed

Maybe anavar too.