feel free to rip me apart on this

ok... when u decided to use gear u were under 170lbs at 6'2"?? that's where this mess all started bro... drop the tbol, not at all necessary for u at this point... and don't even think about the winny

run a straight test e cycle at 500mg per week for 12-15 weeks and don't do a "pussy-ass give up"this time just because of a bit of gyno... it comes with the territory bro... run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout your entire cyle and it won't be an issue

as for u saying your gains stopped at week 9 last time... well, that was 100% due to your diet

for PCT... i know where Zeek was going asking if u were just gonna run nolva alone at 20mg ed for PCT... that would just be a complete waste of time... get some clomid, run it at 50mg per day along with 30mg of nolva for a month

I think I've just about sorted u out... make this one count bro... good luck

I Think my caloric intake wasn't sufficient for my change in body weight (ie at 205 I was still eating like I was 190) appreciate the advice. And I know I should have stuck it out. I regret it for sure. Thanks
 
I Think my caloric intake wasn't sufficient for my change in body weight (ie at 205 I was still eating like I was 190) appreciate the advice. And I know I should have stuck it out. I regret it for sure. Thanks

And I used to box. I used to walk around at 180 6% then I cut dirty weight my last year to 169. Since I was done I didn't worry about getting tested so I did oral only tbol for 4 weeks. I know I could have been back up naturally but I got impatient. I'm not the only one to do that.
 
how about learning to eat????? 6-2 and 188 lbs is weak after 3 cycles. you gotta eat bro

and run the test for 10 weeks atleast
 
how about learning to eat????? 6-2 and 188 lbs is weak after 3 cycles. you gotta eat bro

and run the test for 10 weeks atleast

Keep in mind if I had 15% bf I would be 201. I lik to stay under 10%. My goals are just diffrent. My frame couldnt support 250lbs even though we're the same height. Some guys want to be body builders some guys want to look like fitness models. Goals are just different.
 
But that being said you're probably all right. For too long I've been trained to eat light and not put on bf. I guess I need to lose that thinking if I want gains.
 
what about joint problems with Winstrol (winny)? Will I have more issues at higher doses? I've never used it

I have never had any joint issues with Winstrol (winny) myself. I think when guys/gals diet hard they tend to have joint issues more from the lost body weight and heavy lifting than from the steroids.
 
Ya I'd wait to have all my gear first. Takes about four weeks to kick in then you have a few weeks of the wow factor. That's just a horrible idea. Not really horrible just a waste when u can get more gear and run a good solid cycle.
 
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