Fibromyalgia - A 20 year old searching for an alternative solution

[casbp]

Hello,

I have recently been diagnosed with fibromyalgia, at the age of 20.

Three years ago, before my symptoms started, I used to be very active, and loved my time in the gym. However, now i am 25kg lighter and completely inactive due to my illness.

I will not live a non active life. Therefore, I am searching for an alternative way to ease up my joints/muscles. I was thinking about peptides, since I don't need a PC and as far as I understand peptides are used to relax your muscles and joints.

What is your opinion on this?

Any other information/articles on this subject is more than welcome.

Best regards and thank you

 

[308power]

Fibromyalgia?

 

[ebn2002]

Have you tried marijuana?

 

[ryan640]

Fibromyalgia?

It's like muscle existing or sonething

 

[KingBF]

I would ask all your questions to your doctor

 

[308power]

It's like muscle existing or sonething

Its classified as overactive nerves often associated with depression. Not calling anyone out because it is a real diagnosed medical condition, but its just that its a broad term used when they cant find any specific thing wrong. I always see 40 year old fat women complaining about it. Very odd to see it come up on a steroid board.

On the other hand, the treatment for it would be slowly working into physical activity and counseling to see what the root of emotional trauma is to alleviate the symptoms. I can see where you would look to steroids, but I feel that it would be an extreme amount of overkill and the depression that often occurs during pct could put a patient with a condition such as this in a bad place.

Low impact exercise such as swimming or bicycling with an intidepressant such as zoloft or cymbalta is your best bet in my opinion.

I am not big into the peptides so I will let others chime in there.

 

[casbp]

Yes, I know that it is often associated with depression, but not in my case. My age and gender does not fit the diagnose either, but my doctor can't find another diagnosis.

However, I will not as a 20 year old accept a physical state equal to an old lady. Therefore, any help on giving me a boost in life would be very much appreciated.

thanks

 

[JimiThing]

I have some positive experience with peptides etc but I just dont know enough about this condition to make a recommendation. I mean TB500 helps muscle healing and a ghrp/cjc stack would increase GH and the benefits associated with that. I dont know if either is the correct direction to point you in my friend.

 

[DreDay187]

I have some positive experience with peptides etc but I just dont know enough about this condition to make a recommendation. I mean TB500 helps muscle healing and a ghrp/cjc stack would increase GH and the benefits associated with that. I dont know if either is the correct direction to point you in my friend.

This is an extremely sound post here. I could think of a few things that may help but not knowing much about the condition and how it affects the body I'd be doing more harm than good recommending things. Before you act on any advice given out here, consult with your doctor. You could potentially make things worse!

 

[ebn2002]

Before you act on any advice given out here, consult with your doctor. You could potentially make things worse!

This is true.

I have a friend with fibro and she does acupuncture, pain pills/muscle relaxers, chiropractor, but nothing works. I tried to tell her anal sex was most likely the cure but she didn't buy that. Seriously though I am familiar with all the symptoms and IMO marijuana could alleviate the symptoms of "overactive brain" or "uncontrollable nerve pulses". And with less side effects than 4 xanax a day.

 

[DreDay187]

This is true.

I have a friend with fibro and she does acupuncture, pain pills/muscle relaxers, chiropractor, but nothing works. I tried to tell her anal sex was most likely the cure but she didn't buy that. Seriously though I am familiar with all the symptoms and IMO marijuana could alleviate the symptoms of "overactive brain" or "uncontrollable nerve pulses". And with less side effects than 4 xanax a day.

Medicinal marijuana would be my first recommendation but it wouldn't really help much with the muscle wasting part. Medicinal marijuana has a million different uses! Anal sex is a cure all drug. I'll find some studies to give to your friend for her reading pleasure, maybe she'll change her mind hahaha

 

[2rude4u]

Yes, I know that it is often associated with depression, but not in my case. My age and gender does not fit the diagnose either, but my doctor can't find another diagnosis.

However, I will not as a 20 year old accept a physical state equal to an old lady. Therefore, any help on giving me a boost in life would be very much appreciated.

thanks

I was also diagnosed with FM by a FORMER doctor because he also had no other explanation. After being evaluated by a speciailist in FM it was dtermined that I DO NOT have FM.

Have you been to a good Rheumatologist or just a GP?

 

[unkazra1]

Just my opinion....the verdict is still out on FM after 10plus yrs of diagnosing people with it. My mom has it. My mom also has depression. Other mental issues we don't need to get into, but above all she has pain. The pain she most closely attributes to FM is terrible leg pain. Can't walk type of pain. My mom is also a "mary jane" patient. The only thing the weed helps is her addiction and depression, not the pain. To a point, I agree with the statement..FM seems to be the catch all diagnosis of muscle, joint, bone pain that there is no physical evidence...other than patient testimony. I know my mom has something going, but it's possibly a side effect of all the pot smoking and prescript Rx such as Vicodin's, Robaxin, Valiums everyday..including a bunch of other crap. So my advice to you is...don't slow down. Try harder. Be natural as long as you can. If you're active by nature, stay that way. If you go to the gym, keep going. I understand and empathize with your searching for an alternative means of pain management to a point. If you were looking to use AAS instead all the pain meds and muscle relaxers they are going to prescribe..you're way better off being in the gym and cruising on AAS then another Zombie on pain meds and all that garbage (not to mention out of work eventually). Keep in mind, you're body is still growing bro. So if you are going to use AAS..I recommend working out naturally for at least a few more years. Let nature take it's course with out shutting something else down that may make your condition even harder to deal with down the road. You learn to live with and walk side by side with your condition and the pain assoc with it..You'll never get rid of it. That's the deal you should be looking to make. Don't be fool yourself into thinking there's a pill, solution, or shot that will get rid of your symptoms. Something that makes your condition as normal to deal with as having an old beat up car. You just deal with it. Fuck the pitty party.

 

[casbp]

Mary Jane helps the "overactive brain" as ebn2002 mentioned. However, it doesnt help with the fatigue, pain and general weakness.

I am still going to various specialists, "hoping" I have some rare sort of muscle disorder.

@unkazra1: The problem is that I am unable to work out, even do stretches without waking up and feeling like im going to die. I dont think that a cycle, or whatever, is going to be a solution to the problem. My hope is that it can give a boost in life if I can do simple workouts, get a full-time job. Just a normal everyday, basically.

@JimiThing: TB500 is actually the one I've been considering the most, since the effects of the drug, as you also mention, seem to fit my problems.

 

[Nightmare007]

Its classified as overactive nerves often associated with depression. Not calling anyone out because it is a real diagnosed medical condition, but its just that its a broad term used when they cant find any specific thing wrong. I always see 40 year old fat women complaining about it. Very odd to see it come up on a steroid board.

On the other hand, the treatment for it would be slowly working into physical activity and counseling to see what the root of emotional trauma is to alleviate the symptoms. I can see where you would look to steroids, but I feel that it would be an extreme amount of overkill and the depression that often occurs during pct could put a patient with a condition such as this in a bad place.

Low impact exercise such as swimming or bicycling with an intidepressant such as zoloft or cymbalta is your best bet in my opinion.

I am not big into the peptides so I will let others chime in there.

From what I've gathered the causes can be neurological,genetic or environmental so it's not only psychological if the causes are as a mentioned above making any desition Or giving advice without complete knowledge of his condition can prove harmful it's best to consult a medical professional or a specialist

 

[Hull Tech]

Recently there has been a breakthrough in the diagnosis of FM, ( university of Toronto I think ?), there is an actual protein marker for it, so it is real. However, no one knows how it manifests yet. I work with a long time sufferer of FM, she picked it up at 15 and she is 41 now, has been struggling with workouts from aqua therapy to hard core running. But has been dormant for over 15 with it before she came to me. The best attack plan I had with this person was take it day to day and adjust intensity to fit the severity. Functional training, time under tension ( so low weight constant loading ), all work the best with FM at the start, after a year of training I now have her doing caveman flipping full sized, earth moving tyres and flipping 7 foot sections of wood light standards. ( 14-16" dia). Some days she's better then others , but a high protein intake and reduced intake of alcohol, weed and cigs seems to help her have more on then off days. That's just info off the top of my head, if you have other specifics i might be able to answer them..

 

[308power]

From what I've gathered the causes can be neurological,genetic or environmental so it's not only psychological if the causes are as a mentioned above making any desition Or giving advice without complete knowledge of his condition can prove harmful it's best to consult a medical professional or a specialist

I understand that. I am a nurse. I told him that I am not familiar with peptides and that steroids are overkill. The only thing I actually said was to slowly work into exercise.

I do not know of anyone who would not benefit from slowly adding exercise to their lifestyle, or simply talking to a counselor about what is going on in their life, regardless of if they have any significant events that have taken place.

I apologize if this was taken as bad advice ...

 

[2rude4u]

Mary Jane helps the "overactive brain" as ebn2002 mentioned. However, it doesnt help with the fatigue, pain and general weakness.

I am still going to various specialists, "hoping" I have some rare sort of muscle disorder.

@unkazra1: The problem is that I am unable to work out, even do stretches without waking up and feeling like im going to die. I dont think that a cycle, or whatever, is going to be a solution to the problem. My hope is that it can give a boost in life if I can do simple workouts, get a full-time job. Just a normal everyday, basically.

@JimiThing: TB500 is actually the one I've been considering the most, since the effects of the drug, as you also mention, seem to fit my problems.

You need to go one step at a time. You do not need "various specialists" yet. You need to find a good Rheumatologist to determine if your current diagnosis is correct. I'm betting it's not, but a Rheumatologist specializes in FM and will be able to make that determination.

A Rheumatologist may confirm FM or at the very least can rule it out and may also determine your actual issue. It's sounds to me like it may be some type of auto-immune disease, but take it one step at a time. Seeking the advice of "various specialists" will likely leave you with multiple diagnoses and no idea what is really going on.

 

[Nightmare007]

I understand that. I am a nurse. I told him that I am not familiar with peptides and that steroids are overkill. The only thing I actually said was to slowly work into exercise.

I do not know of anyone who would not benefit from slowly adding exercise to their lifestyle, or simply talking to a counselor about what is going on in their life, regardless of if they have any significant events that have taken place.

I apologize if this was taken as bad advice ...

From his initial post his condition is drastically different from that of a bunch of old fattys who reduce to eat right or exercise
His movements are highly restricted I'm not trying to put you down that comment was everyone giving advice in general
If his condition is neurologically induced he would require special therapy to be able to function normally so certain exercises or the use of peptide or steroidal compounds might cause more permanent harm
We don't have all the details about his individual condition and personally felt that he would be better off going to a professional/specialist for advice/treatment

 

[Nightmare007]

You need to go one step at a time. You do not need "various specialists" yet. You need to find a good Rheumatologist to determine if your current diagnosis is correct. I'm betting it's not, but a Rheumatologist specializes in FM and will be able to make that determination.

A Rheumatologist may confirm FM or at the very least can rule it out and may also determine your actual issue. It's sounds to me like it may be some type of auto-immune disease, but take it one step at a time. Seeking the advice of "various specialists" will likely leave you with multiple diagnoses and no idea what is really going on.

^^^this