Fina/Tren without Test... Do I dare?

[Stimmy]

Here is a thought.

75mgs Tren EOD on a 6 week cycle
500iu's of HcG every 3rd day. Stopping HcG 1 week after last Tren pin.

PCT-2 days after last Tren pin, Nolva 80mg/day first day split through the day, 40mg/day for 1 week and 20mg/day for 3 more weeks.

Have Nolva on hand the whole cycle just incase.

6ft,2 inches
188.2 lbs naked after I piss in the morning.
10% BF via Caliper pinch. Tested Regularly.

Goal... 8% BF and 205 at the end of the cycle.

Usually I would Stack Test with this, but I am curious if the HcG would be a suitable replacement?

Veteran thoughts, Flames, etc...

Thanks!

 

[Teutonic]

Gain 17 pounds..lose 2% bf...in 6 weeks.VERY ambitous if not downright impossible..!! Thats like 2.83 pounds lean mass a week...if it works you da man.
Your lean now..with winter cumin on...
Test with every cycle...just my thoughts. I m interested in others responses....you ever run tren ?

 

[Biggin]

Only thing U will gain at the end of that cycle is A LIMP STIMMY!!

 

[1badmofo]

test is cheap, why risk it? Just run it with test.

 

[Stimmy]

I was just curious. The reason I asked was because my job does drug testing at random. I could probably get away with doing a cycle and then having my system clear in 5 weeks. That leaves Test Prop and Sus. as my Test options.

Prop hurts like hell and pinning Sus. with Tren ED to EOD would suck. That is why I thought about HcG throughout.

hmm....

The German... I know that the gain and bf loss seem aggressive, but I have my nutrition plotted out to the gram. My workouts are great and have no doubt that I could come pretty close if not achieve my goal. Natural gains are .5-1 lbs LBM if you eat and train right. So I imagine with Tren, 2 lbs a week would be very achievable. Obviously this is speculation as I haven't done Tren yet.

I have never done tren, if I didn't have the work obstacle then it would be Test, Tren and D-bol, but work throws a pretty big wrench into the mix. And as much as I would like to just take my chances, it isn't worth losing my job. If I get too big too fast then the random Drug Test will show up. I chose winter to do my cycle because I can cover up with my coat and long sleeves that naturally make you look bigger.

More thoughts or do I just suck it up and run Test E. with it and hope for the luck of the draw?

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Your job does random Steroid tests?

 

[Stimmy]

Your job does random Steroid tests?

Random Drug tests. Steroids would show up I am sure.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Somebody else can chime in with more knowledge but a drug test for pot, coke and stuff of that nature is totally different bro.

 

[alumni]

AAS is a whole diff and innacurate test that is expensive.

they look for amphetamines.

Thats how it was in the military atleast.

 

[Stimmy]

AAS is a whole diff and innacurate test that is expensive.

they look for amphetamines.

Thats how it was in the military atleast.

So for Urine drug testing they won't pick up on Steroids, is that what I am understanding?

 

[GymLift]

Random Drug tests. Steroids would show up I am sure.

Well, you're mistaken.

None of the standard panel drug tests test for steroids.

Even if they did, which I promise they do not, testosterone is something that you are supposed to have in your body; trenbolone is not.

 

[Stimmy]

Well then my plans have changed

looks like a Test and Tren cycle is in my future. Thanks for the clarity on that.

 

[estray]

Here is a thought.

75mgs Tren EOD on a 6 week cycle
500iu's of HcG every 3rd day. Stopping HcG 1 week after last Tren pin.

PCT-2 days after last Tren pin, Nolva 80mg/day first day split through the day, 40mg/day for 1 week and 20mg/day for 3 more weeks.

Have Nolva on hand the whole cycle just incase.

6ft,2 inches
188.2 lbs naked after I piss in the morning.
10% BF via Caliper pinch. Tested Regularly.

Goal... 8% BF and 205 at the end of the cycle.

Usually I would Stack Test with this, but I am curious if the HcG would be a suitable replacement?

Veteran thoughts, Flames, etc...

Thanks!

Nolva on hand in case of what?

Tren is a progesterone. Nolva is for estrogen gyno. All the Nolva in the world wont stop gyno from tren. You better read up some more.

 

[Onehungrychicken]

Random Drug tests. Steroids would show up I am sure.

They wouldnt test for roids. Roids dont show up on a general toxt screen.

 

[Teutonic]

I wish you well..

 

[Teutonic]

...and random u/a s cost the employer under 35 bucks. Hair tests...90 ish...
To detect steroids they have to ship it to a lab and use a differant specific gravity test to detect the steroid metabolites which are not on any "normal" drug panel.100-130 dollars...least thats what they charge me.
Let us know if you gain 2.8 pounds lean muscle a week.

 

[Die$eL~Man]

Only thing U will gain at the end of that cycle is A LIMP STIMMY!!

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