First cycle 500mgs Test E with Dbol (Before pics)

[TLG]

Oh dear, I really hope you appreciate what you have got yourself into.

My main piece of advice is making sure when you do post cycle therapy (pct) you do everything you can to get it right and get comprehensive blood work done once you complete your cycle.

Then don't do it again until your at least 25.

I wish I had waited longer to start and I'm sure many others do too.

That being said GL and stay safe.

What would your recommendation for post cycle therapy (pct) be? I am thinking of buying another vial of Nolvadex so that I can run the first two weeks of post cycle therapy (pct) at 50mgs ED then taper down to 25mgs for the last two weeks. Human chorionic gonadotropin is very hard to source here in NZ so that is not a possibility. It's a shame as I would really like to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if possible. I know that some people will recommend Clomid as well but there are clearly differing opinions on this matter and from the literature I have read, tamoxifen seems to be the better choice for post cycle therapy (pct). I am aware recent research has shown Nolvadex lowers IGF-1 levels but I think that is better than risking permanent damage to my eyesight from Clomid. Any input I will certainly consider

 

[3J]

i would really love to see what your diet looks like bro

 

[TLG]

i would really love to see what your diet looks like bro

This is a typical diet back in September 2011 when I was 68kgs:

3 Sep

Meal 1 6am: 500ml milk, 4 Weet Bix, 1 fish oil tablet
C 65g P 23g F 18g Cals: 514

Meal 2 7am: 250g rice, 50g beef, 100g bean sprouts
C 80g P 28g F 7g Cals: 495

Meal 3 10am: 6 eggs, 210g baked beans, 200ml milk
C 46g P 53g F 37g Cals 729

Meal 4 12pm:300g rice, 100g beef, orange
C 100g P 37g F 8g Cals: 620

Meal 5 (Post workout) 5pm: 2x bananas, 200ml milk, 30g whey, 4 caps Kre-Alkalyn, 5g glutamine
C 62g P 32g F 8g Cals: 448

Meal 6 6pm: 250g rice, 150g beef, veges
C 80g P 50g F 12g Cals: 628

Meal 7 8pm: Half of a Pizza Hut Large Supreme pizza, 400ml milk
C 100g P 47g F 39g Cals: 859

8:30pm: Apple
C 15g Cals: 60

Total C 548g P 240g F 129g Cals: 4353


4 Sep 11

Meal 1 3am: 300ml milk, 4 Weet Bix
C 55g P 17g F 11g Cals 387

Meal 2 8am: Egg fried rice (Uncle Bens), 150g chicken
C 73g P 47g F 23g Cals: 687

Meal 3 11am: 2 Big Macs, 400ml Primo, orange
C 123g P 67g F 58g Cals 1282

Meal 4 2pm: 400ml Primo, One Square Meal
C 126g P 31g F 29g Cals: 849

Meal 5 7pm: 350g rice, 150g chicken, 1 egg
C 106g P 51g F 25g Cals: 853

Meal 6 8pm: 100g mixed nuts, 750ml Powerade, 200ml milk
C 88g P 23g F 56g Cals: 948

Total C 571g P 236g F 202g Cals: 5006



This is what I ate today:

Meal 1 3am: 300ml milk, 1 serving Awesome Mass
C 48g P 36g F 16g Cals: 480

Meal 2 8am: 300ml milk, 50g rolled oats, 150g chicken quarter with skin with 50g sage & onion stuffing
C 55g P 60g F 45g Cals: 865

Meal 3 11:30am: Uncle Bens brown rice chicken flavour 250g, 160g can Chop chop chicken in lite mayo, 400ml milk, One square meal
C 190g P 75g F 44g Cals: 1456

Meal 4 4pm: 300ml grapefruit juice, 100g fried potato, 4 chicken nuggets, 1 medium banana
C 83g P 14g F 15g Cals: 523

Meal 5 5pm: 6x nut bars (no coating)
C 69g P 33g F 59g Cals: 939

Meal 6 6pm: 450g lamb shoulder chops (bone weight included, fat removed), 400g baked potato, 200mls milk
C 94g P 84g F 36g Cals: 1036

Meal 7 8pm: 6x size 7 whole eggs, mixed veges, 200ml milk
C 15g P 48g F 46g Cals: 666

Total C 554g P 350g F 261g Cals: 5965

Today I ate a bit more than I usually would but that is pretty typical of my normal diet apart from the chicken nuggets and fried potatoes which I decided to have post workout for some reason haha.
Any tweaks I could make to that diet to make it better? Thanks

 

[mispronounced]

Total C 554g P 350g F 261g Cals: 5965

either you have the fastest metabolism ive ever seen, or youre counting wrong. only 73kg while eating nearly 6k calories a day?

or youre very very active, that could explain it as well. you an athlete OP?

 

[TLG]

either you have the fastest metabolism ive ever seen, or youre counting wrong. only 73kg while eating nearly 6k calories a day?

or youre very very active, that could explain it as well. you an athlete OP?

Not an athlete, but I do have a moderaely active job. Im pretty sure I just shit everything out cos i dump two huge loads a day. I think my basal metabolic rate is at least 3500-4000. And Im definitely counting right, I have a n electronic scale i measure my food on. I reckon once my cycle gets going, Ill need to.step up my intake to 7000 or 8000. And I dont even do any cardio

 

[TLG]

Tuesday - Quads, hamstrings and calves

Stiff legged deadlifts
20kg x12
40kg x12
60kg x14
80kg x12, 3 sets
60kg x12, 2 sets

Leg press
150kg x15
200kg x12
240kg x12
280kg x12

Started to get really nauseous and dizzy

Squat
60kg x12
100kg x10, 3 sets

Hyperextensions
10kg x15, 5 sets

Leg extensions superset with lunges
x12, BW x30 paces, 3 sets

Standing calf raises
150lbs x15, 12, 12, 12, 12

The leg press machine at the gym is built for tall people so unless you're 5"10 or over, you can't really use it. Me being 5"7, I had to calf raise the carriage to unlock it. It was possible with the lighter weights but I had to stop because once I reached a decent weight, I couldn't calf raise it off anymore. Sux

Doing squats I was nauseous and dizzy as hell for some reason. As a result, I wasn't able to go as hard as I should have. Legs got pumped by the end though.

73.60kgs bodyweight today.

 

[TLG]

i would really love to see what your diet looks like bro

Well, what do you think of my diet? I bet u said that thinking I didnt even know what a carbohydrate or protein was and that I was eating barely 2000 cals a day. Come at me bro

 

[TLG]

Pinned for second time today, left glute. It went pretty smoothly, just a little stinging when inserting the needle. Forehead is quite oily, Ive been washing my face as I dont want to get bad acne. I dont think the Dbol has quite kicked in yet, probably take a few more days

 

[robr]

hey bro, i pinned my quad last friday and the pain has still not gone away completely. my second pin i used the glute which was not bad(considering i need my legs to walk lol),
for how long to you get pip??

 

[TLG]

Hey man, Im still a newb too, only did my second pin yesterday. Sunday I pinned my right glute and the injection site is still slightly sore, today is Thursday. It is going away though.

 

[TLG]

Thursday Shoulder and tris

Barbell shoulder press
20kg x15
30kg x12
40kg x15, 7, 4
30kg x8, 8

DB shoulder press
20kg x8, 8, 6
15kg x10, 10

Lateral raises
10kg x12, 10, 8
8kg x10, 9

Front raises
5kg x12, 12, 12

Close grip bench
40kg x15
60kg x10, 8
50kg x10, 8, 7

Overhead DB tricep ext.
20kg x15, 3 sets

Cable lateral raises
7.5 x10, 2 sets

Dragon flags
BW x8, 6

74.15kg post workout

 

[spidartanks]

Thursday Shoulder and tris

Barbell shoulder press
20kg x15
30kg x12
40kg x15, 7, 4
30kg x8, 8

DB shoulder press
20kg x8, 8, 6
15kg x10, 10

Lateral raises
10kg x12, 10, 8
8kg x10, 9

Front raises
5kg x12, 12, 12

Close grip bench
40kg x15
60kg x10, 8
50kg x10, 8, 7

Overhead DB tricep ext.
20kg x15, 3 sets

Cable lateral raises
7.5 x10, 2 sets

Dragon flags
BW x8, 6

74.15kg post workout

I hope your strength goes waaaayyyy up!

 

[TLG]

U mirin brah?

 

[TLG]

Friday back and biceps

Pullups
BW x12, 5, 4, 4, 3

Barbell rows
40kg x15, 12, 10, 10

Cable row superset with lat pulldowns
105lbs x10, 75lbs x10, 3 sets

Straight arm pulldown superset with single arm cable row
x10, x10, 3 sets

Rear delt raises
8kg x12, 3 sets

EZ bar curls
27kg x10, 8
22kg x10, 8, 8

Incline curls
8kg x10, 2 sets

Hammer curls
8kg x10, 3 sets

Rear delt raises
5kg x15, 3 sets

Jogging
10 mins

73.15kg bodyweight today. Didn't eat much yesterday and today due to busy work schedule. I don't really feel anything yet

 

[TLG]

Today I felt really tired all day at work and sleepy as hell even though I got nearly 8 hours sleep. I'm thinking it could be from low estrogen because I took 1mg of adex on Monday plus the test and dbol hasn't really kicked in yet so there's no test that has aromatised to estrogen yet. I think I might drop the dose to 0.3mg Mon Wed Fri from next week.

 

[TLG]

I just pinned the test e for the third time. It's Sunday morning and I decided to go for the right outer quad. When I aspirated, the syringe immediately filled with blood and so I withdrew straight away. I must've been right in a blood vessel. Lucky I aspirated, I squirted the blood out of the syringe and fitted a new 23 gauge needle. I went about an inch away from my first site and this time there was no blood when I aspirated so I injected. Hopefully I won't get pip in my quad.

 

[TLG]

Progress pics one week into my cycle. I don't think anything has kicked in yet, not even the Dbol. I haven't gained any weight yet nor have I seen any strength increases. Hopefully when I go to the gym tomorrow I will notice some changes.

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[TLG]

Monday chest and tris, bis

Flat barbell bench
20kg x15
40kg x15
60kg x12
80kg x8, 5, 5
60kg x10, 8

Incline DB bench
25kg x8, 4
20kg x8, 7

Dips
BW x10, 8, 8

Pec dec superset with Skullcrushers
x12, x12, 3 sets

DB flyes
12.5kg x12, 3 sets

Cable crossovers superset with Tricep pushdown
x12, x15, 4 sets

Rotator cuff exercises
2 sets

EZ bar curls
17kg x15, 12, 12, 12

Hammer curls
8kg x10, 3 sets

Jogging
10 minutes

75.30kg bodyweight today

Weight seems to have gone up, but strength was still the same

 

[TLG]

Tuesday Legs

Back squat (barbell)
20kg x12
60kg x12
80kg x10
100kg x8
120kg x8 (belt)
140kg x12 (belt and knee wraps)
160kg x8 (belt and knee wraps)

Stiff legged deadlift
60kg x12, 4 sets

Front squats
80kg x8, 3 sets

Hyperextensions
10kg x18, 15, 15 dropset BW x5

Leg extensions superset with BW lunges
x12, x30, 3 sets

75.85kg bodyweight today.

Killer leg workout. Legs were so pumped. 8 reps with 160kgs is a PB for me, best before is 5 reps. I think I could've done two more reps if I really went to failure but didn't want to risk injuring my back again. The lunges had me crawling afterwards. Good stuff!

 

[TLG]

I took 0.3mg of Anastrozole on Monday and again today. I'm feeling alright this week, no lethargy or sleepiness so that's good. I don't feel like a god like some people say they do on Dbol though. I just pinned my left quad, all went smoothly. No fuss. Looking forward to stepping on the scale tomorrow.