First cycle - litle imput please

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g60

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I've been reading for a while now trying to educate myself on cycles and what other products to take along with and post cycle.

Little info about me:

25
6'1"
178lbs
bf% unknow, i'm not fat by any means but we could all use some tonning
been working out for a few years but will definetly get more dedicated while i'm on the cycle...right now it's 3-4 days a week

i've already got test-C (2x10mil) and deca (1x10mil)

I've read that it would probably best to run just test-C for my first cycle but the guy i'm doing this with (had previsously cycled) along with who we got it from recommended it for joint relief

we will go 2 shots (1cc or mL) every week or the test-c with 1cc per week of the deca (or maybe 0.5cc with each shot of test-c

how does this sound?


now for pct

our cycle will be starting next week (10-11 week cycle) and we were thinking of starting pct in around week 7 (begining of december) to start getting natural test production started

thoughts? nolva or clomid?

anything else i need to know, please let me know

any links you may have would be appreciated as well
 
g60 said:
I've been reading for a while now trying to educate myself on cycles and what other products to take along with and post cycle.

Little info about me:

25
6'1"
178lbs
bf% unknow, i'm not fat by any means but we could all use some tonning
been working out for a few years but will definetly get more dedicated while i'm on the cycle...right now it's 3-4 days a week

i've already got test-C (2x10mil) and deca (1x10mil)

I've read that it would probably best to run just test-C for my first cycle but the guy i'm doing this with (had previsously cycled) along with who we got it from recommended it for joint relief

we will go 2 shots (1cc or mL) every week or the test-c with 1cc per week of the deca (or maybe 0.5cc with each shot of test-c

how does this sound?


now for post cycle therapy (pct)

our cycle will be starting next week (10-11 week cycle) and we were thinking of starting post cycle therapy (pct) in around week 7 (begining of december) to start getting natural test production started

thoughts? nolva or clomid?

anything else i need to know, please let me know

any links you may have would be appreciated as well
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post cycle therapy (pct) Post Cycle Therapy, you know no way near enough to start a cycle!
 
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This is what your chest will look like running PCT at week 7 in a 12 week test and deca cycle using Nolva. If yo have to ask why it backs up what I said earlier.
 
178lbs for 6'1... no gear for you.. why?

with a testo cycle you will reach 190 lbs aronds, and you will still tin.

better for you to go on the diet forum, kid, right?
 
g60 said:
I've been reading for a while now trying to educate myself on cycles and what other products to take along with and post cycle.

Little info about me:

25
6'1"
178lbs
bf% unknow, i'm not fat by any means but we could all use some tonning
been working out for a few years but will definetly get more dedicated while i'm on the cycle...right now it's 3-4 days a week

i've already got test-C (2x10mil) and deca (1x10mil)

I've read that it would probably best to run just test-C for my first cycle but the guy i'm doing this with (had previsously cycled) along with who we got it from recommended it for joint relief

we will go 2 shots (1cc or mL) every week or the test-c with 1cc per week of the deca (or maybe 0.5cc with each shot of test-c

how does this sound?


now for pct

our cycle will be starting next week (10-11 week cycle) and we were thinking of starting pct in around week 7 (begining of december) to start getting natural test production started

thoughts? nolva or clomid?

anything else i need to know, please let me know

any links you may have would be appreciated as well
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At your age you can get great results by just adding some good sups and clean up your diet.:newbie:

No matter what drop the Deca!!!
 
MethTest said:
PCT Post Cycle Therapy, you know no way near enough to start a cycle!
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thanks for the help in clarifying why i don't know what i'm doing

that's why i asked here

if you can give me some links (like i asked) then i'd love to read up on pct etc

there's just so much information and trying to search just comes up with more threads like mine where guys just get flamed

can you explain why running the deca with the test is bad...not just say it is would be appreciated

the deca i can drop, no problem, its just the rest of the pct etc that i want to get figured out

how much to take and when, and the reasoning behind it
 
Test is a must with Deca or you will get deca dick, a no no is running deca and then taking nolva at the same time!

Start PCT two weeks after last test injection and 3 weeks after last deca injection.

You need to read this site from top to bottom as I'm sure all who have replied in this thread and others with spot on advice have done.

Things to research:

AI's
SERMS
anti progesterone drugs
Estrogen
Prolactin
Progesterone
Testosterone
19nor steriods and their effects
the list goes on and on and on.
 
you have many many hours of learning to do my friend, do yourself a favor and call off that cycle your gonna start cuz you will hurt yourself, thats not me being a dick thats just being real!
 
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it was never my intent to do deca with out the test-c, if anything it's the other way around

i now understand my partner is wrong with the timeline to take PCT...do it 2 weeks after finishing test-c

now other than it being risky on my first cycle, what are the other disadvantages of doing the half dose of deca (1cc per week) during the cycle?

i'm here to learn, and i do understand i have alot to learn

i found the newb link so i'm going to read up on that
 
after reading through DocJ's newbie thread and trying to read as many other individual threads i'm hopeing i've got a bit better idea

here's so far my plan

1-12 - Test-c 500mg (250mg twice a week)
1-12 - Deca 250mg per week (this can be dropped, DocJ did not saying taking Deca was a bad idea if taken with test)

post cycle therapy (pct) wk 14-18 nolva 20/20/10/10 or
post cycle therapy (pct) clomid wk 14-18 50/50/25/25

the post cycle therapy (pct) part was just copied from another thread where the guy was taking test-c for a 12 week cycle

it is also recommened to have nolva on hand from the begining of the cycle to stop gyno if it starts up, correct?

this will be my one and only cycle i do, i just want to be as safe and prepared as possible

thanks guys
 
PCT should be started 3 weeks after last DECA pin... Either do Test one week longer or stop deca one week before the TEST.

I wouldnt do the DECA at only 250mgwk...
You can...but you may not see much from it..
 
No nolva with DECA! Nolva can increase sides associated with DECA.

Get a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Aromasin or adex to control estro during your cycle.
 
ythrashin said:
post cycle therapy (pct) should be started 3 weeks after last DECA pin... Either do Test one week longer or stop deca one week before the TEST.

I wouldnt do the DECA at only 250mgwk...
You can...but you may not see much from it..
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ok thanks

ya i was wondering if the 250 would even make any difference, but i was told the reason to take it along with test was more of a joint aid

if this is false and a joke, i just thought i'd ask to get the facts straight.....this is coming from a long time competition bodybuilder (so take it for what it's worth, of course i know he could be wrong so that's why i'm asking here)


thanks for the heads up on nolva/deca

i'll do some more reading on AI

if i don't take the deca.....using nolva (or just having it on hand) with test is ok i would assume

and using either nolva or clomid is still ok for post cycle therapy (pct) regardless of what i use during the cycle.....test or test/deca

thanks guys
 
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