First Cycle - Orals

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Brian84 said:
Next monday i plan on starting my first cycle. I just recieved 50 -50mg Winstrol (winny) and 400 5mg dbol. I also have my post cycle therapy (pct) ready, I plan on using nolva and clomid for the two weeks with the highest dosage and continue using 3 weeks post. I also have clen from a few months ago, seems to make me too shaky though. I have a meal plan that will give me enough calories and protein to bulk as well as keeping it low enough to shed some excess weight. I'll be posting.
what doses are you going to use and how many weeks ?
 
I think he's gone, but I am sure he is gonna run the cycle. Like I said up the dose and yes pyramidding is a waiste of time. Hit it hard and get out.
 
Sostnon 250:Testosterone propionate (30 mg); testosterone phenylpropionate (60 mg); testosterone isocaproate (60mg); and testosterone decanoate (100 mg), and add Winstrol one has 5 compounds.With the water weight Brian will get I doubt very seriously he'll have any joint problems. I NEVER got joint pain but everyones different.

Hes running low doses...there would be no difference if he were running an oral like Anadrol @ 50 mgs and an oral like Winstrol at 25 mgs ED or just running 75 mgs Drol or 75 mgs Winstrol......the big deal that because theyre two compounds it a God awful sin doesnt make sense.

Lets keep it clean guys. We're all in it for the same reason....to grow, get stronger and more athletic.

There is more than one way top reach ones goals and if someone wants to try something different then more power to em.

If noone would have tried the simple cycle of Test Prop and Tren then that awesome yet simple cycle would never have come about.
 
Gator I'm glad you decided to join us. Maybe you would like to inform everyone in what manner I was kissing your ass and asking you for info a couple weeks ago? I don't remember any such encounter but you are welcome to fill me in.

Also as much as you may want to think sust is 5 compounds, you SHOULD know by know that test is test, the esters make little difference except how the drug is released.
 
LiftTillIDie said:
Gator I'm glad you decided to join us. Maybe you would like to inform everyone in what manner I was kissing your ass and asking you for info a couple weeks ago? I don't remember any such encounter but you are welcome to fill me in.

Also as much as you may want to think sust is 5 compounds, you SHOULD know by know that test is test, the esters make little difference except how the drug is released.
You repped me saying I had way more experience than you and went along with my advice. You were real cool about it.

The molecular structure of each compound is different, therefore they are different compounds. Thats why one does not Bloat nearly as much on Prop as Cyp or Enanthate.

Stop the nonsense man....you used to be cool, just because you disagree with some peoples opinion, feel free to state it but no need for all the hate.

Gator
 
gator_mclusky said:
You repped me saying I had way more experience than you and went along with my advice. You were real cool about it.

Care to be more specific? I'm predicting you won't be because this didn't happen.


Test is test gator. Sust is 4 kinds of one chemical.
 
gator_mclusky said:
Sostnon 250:Testosterone propionate (30 mg); testosterone phenylpropionate (60 mg); testosterone isocaproate (60mg); and testosterone decanoate (100 mg), and add Winstrol one has 5 compounds.With the water weight Brian will get I doubt very seriously he'll have any joint problems. I NEVER got joint pain but everyones different.

Hes running low doses...there would be no difference if he were running an oral like Anadrol @ 50 mgs and an oral like Winstrol at 25 mgs ED or just running 75 mgs Drol or 75 mgs Winstrol......the big deal that because theyre two compounds it a God awful sin doesnt make sense.

Lets keep it clean guys. We're all in it for the same reason....to grow, get stronger and more athletic.

There is more than one way top reach ones goals and if someone wants to try something different then more power to em.

If noone would have tried the simple cycle of Test Prop and Tren then that awesome yet simple cycle would never have come about.

That's four esters of the same compound. :)
 
gator_mclusky said:
You repped me saying I had way more experience than you and went along with my advice. You were real cool about it.

The molecular structure of each compound is different, therefore they are different compounds. Thats why one does not Bloat nearly as much on Prop as Cyp or Enanthate.

Stop the nonsense man....you used to be cool, just because you disagree with some peoples opinion, feel free to state it but no need for all the hate.

Gator
sorry gator sus is one compound = test the esters only affect how quick the test is released/used up in the system .
as for 2 orals if both are at a low enough dose and for a short enough cycle that wouldnt be a TERRIBLE cycle but if hes listed doses or durations i missed it .
 
bleachcola said:
So then you are just scared of needles? Or is your research really been that unproductive?
No, im not scared of needles, im just simply trying my options before i have to go to that.
 
Dave B. said:
What is your present height, weight, BF % and lifting experience?
6'2'' 215lbs 10%bf and have been lifting religously for the past 3 years. Theres a lifetime fitness about 100yards away from my apartments
 
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