First cycle(Test-Deca) Need help

happyzle said:
Your help is very much appreciated!!! Glad to meet a respectful and full of knowledge person. Also sharing your personal experience helps me.

Must've been hard to be out of the gym for 4 months, am sorry to hear this man. You had MUCH more trouble than me :/ hope your pain will end soon and you will recover from this.

That's what I will do, I will complete this week's schedule since Pec's day is done. I have 2xback, legs and shoulder this weekend left to do. I should be alright. Then Ill take 10days off(it will be hard to stay offf the gym) and meet my massage therapist.

Thanks again brother!!
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you are quiet welcome my friend,you should heal faster because of your age,nutrition cause from the pictures,you are strict about your training and diet,and taking some time off from the gym always helps everyone,you wont lose any muscle in 2weeks time at all,it will help them to recover and rest and when you do start back you will gain faster,or at least i do,i feel re energized and stronger when i come off a layoff

those 4 months i was off,i didnt work out my bad shoulder,but i did go to the gym and worked out the whole right side of my body lol,it killed me not being able to bench etc...but it was worth it

Injuries are aweful,but happens to everyone at some point and time and we just learn to adjust and adapt,my shoulders have always given me trouble and whn i had surgery,im glad i got all that fixed,and the time off,plus the PT helped me so much and still i do excercises at home everynight that the PT told me to do to strengthen certain muscles in my shoulder that are not up to par and to help me from injurying them again in the future in those bad places


anytime i can help man,i will do my best to help you if i can,you just take care of yourself and get well
 
Thanks, yeah everything I do and everything I eat is related to my training.

I will keep you updated for sure!!
 
**Update**

I know some of you will hate on me or simply judge me about running a cycle at 20 y/o. But seriously, I will not mind because of what happened in my life in the past few weeks/months, I want to live 110% and dont think about the future since i might get hit by a car tomorrow since I work on delivery or any way else. I will assume that I am too young to run a steroid cycle and not gonna come back on my decision. One's have the right to decide of his own life.

*Please dont post to tell me: You're too young, dumbass .... or any kind of these comments.

I do need advices and I would like to get them from people who have the knowledge to answer me the best they can.

Considering previous posts, I plan on getting NorthernPharma-or-Medistar gear(Im not sure about which one to use yet). There it is :

Test E 14 weeks @ 600mg/week (Monday and Friday inj) 300mg/each shot.
Aromasin 14 weeks @ 12.5mg every 3 days to keep oestrogen/aromatase low.
Dbol Kickstart weeks 1-4 @ 40mg ED

Would Aromasin be better than Adex which one works best for oestrogen control with the least side effects. Without suppressing too much.

PCT would consists of :

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

I've read on Clomid and many users reporter blurry vision and flashes. Vision damage/troubles that would take weeks/months to taper off. I would like to get more information on this too please. I've read the Clomid Sticky and I didnt see anything about this.


This is what is planned, I will start it 1 week after my 10 days break to give a rest to my shoulder/pec. I am willing to take your constructive comments and thoughts on this beginner cycle. Thanks
 
Aromasin imo is better than adex. Also it has a short half life and needs to be ran ed. Run it all the way through pct. And if your hell bent on doing this cycle drop the dbol learn how you react to just the test.
 
Alright, is there any other things i should know beside this??

btw, excuse my english once more, this isnt my first language
 
I think for a first cycle,it looks good,although i normally dont recommend dbol,but alot of people use dbol on thier first with no problem,other than that the cycle looks good to me,i do wish you were a little older lol
 
Alright, thanks for help. I know about my age but we never know what happens in life... And I learnt a BUNCH of things in 2-3weeks on Ology.

Will order gear next week.

P.S. This is the thread I was talking about Bulleye
 
happyzle said:
I know im only 20 but as I said i've been training for 8 years consecutive... I kinda hit a plateau. Been the same weight for 1 1/2 year.

By the way, I changed my mind. I will be using Euro-Pharm Test E
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you dont plateau at 178 pounds lol . quit bullshitting youself and be honest.


you need help with your diet.
 
Ill be honest with you Dadawg, I was 172lbs on August 2010. I started a Mass diet from August 2010 to April 2011. Then on a Cut diet from April 2011 to august 2011. Then September to NOW and my weight dropped by like 10lbs last summer then when I bulked Fall 2011 I came back to 175lbs... And I can say my diet is pretty strict, it is made by a Nutritionist/Kinesiologist who had competed in my country. A very reliable trainer. Also, I dont drink, I dont do any drugs and sleep 6-10 hours each night.
 
Thanks for your opinion Bigmark,

But im kinda worried since you tell me to run a Oral only cycle ... and even without a PCT.

Also I cannot run winstrol since I have joint pain and a ligament injuried. I need to give it all the chance it needs to recover, not weaken it by using Winstrol.
 
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