First timer here, looking any advice, starting 2nd cycle.

Tim23 said:
So Ive been off for around 4 months now. Got one more week to go. So I'll be getting blood work done within a week. I feel like Im back to normal. Acne on my back has cleared up, my dick is functioning properly, which Ive been pretty excited about. Everything feels to be back to how it was before, so hopefully my blood work comes back okay.

Im thinking about doing 500 of Test and 300 of Tren per week. I want to make sure Im doing this correctly this time, to prevent from my estrogen getting as high as it did the last time. My body fat is around 13% now. Been working pretty hard with a strict diet to get that down.

I want to make sure Im doing everything right this time. I wasnt using HCG or Arimadex in the beginning last time.
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Post up a pic to see what your PCT looks like, w/body stats.
 
this was a really good post and discussion that followed. when i started to read it i thought, oh here's another one that has jumped in without knowing the basics and on a crazy cycle...and man was that first cycle that your 'friend' sold you the absolute pits.

thankfully you did 2 things right.

1. you posted here and
2. you listened

so many people post in these forums looking for the answers that they want to hear rather than the answers they need to hear. so its refreshing to read a post from someone who seeks out advice, admits that they have made a mistake and actually follows the advice given, so therefore you have my respect for that.

the guys that call this forum home and the moderators here have a fantastic amount of knowledge and they are more than happy to help out with advice and support.

best of luck with your next cycle
 
TheBigDawg said:
this was a really good post and discussion that followed. when i started to read it i thought, oh here's another one that has jumped in without knowing the basics and on a crazy cycle...and man was that first cycle that your 'friend' sold you the absolute pits.

thankfully you did 2 things right.

1. you posted here and
2. you listened

so many people post in these forums looking for the answers that they want to hear rather than the answers they need to hear. so its refreshing to read a post from someone who seeks out advice, admits that they have made a mistake and actually follows the advice given, so therefore you have my respect for that.

the guys that call this forum home and the moderators here have a fantastic amount of knowledge and they are more than happy to help out with advice and support.

best of luck with your next cycle
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Thanks BigDawg. I came here for help and got that and more. I only have one body and would like to not fuck it up too bad, so I listened, even though I didnt want to a few times. Haha. I appreciate everything everyone has helped me with here.
 
So here are my lab results that I just got back today. Everythings in range except 2 things. I believe those have something to do with my liver and Jack Daniels drinking recently. Im gonna look them up right now.

So Im wondering if this looks good to every one. Id like to get back on by Sunday or Monday. Test and Tren.

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Tim23 said:
So here are my lab results that I just got back today. Everythings in range except 2 things. I believe those have something to do with my liver and Jack Daniels drinking recently. Im gonna look them up right now.

So Im wondering if this looks good to every one. Id like to get back on by Sunday or Monday. Test and Tren.

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Liver might need some help. Are you taking your NAC? And stop drinking. Jack.

You are borderline hypogonadal. I can't remember. Is that where you normally are? If yes, you should seek TRT prior to running another cycle.
 
Megatron28 said:
Liver might need some help. Are you taking your NAC? And stop drinking. Jack.

You are borderline hypogonadal. I can't remember. Is that where you normally are? If yes, you should seek TRT prior to running another cycle.
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I just looked up hypogonadal. How are you able to tell? By the AST and ASL?

I've been on a pretty crazy drinking binge, honestly. I have a high tollerance for alcohol, so Im usually drinking a pretty big bottle of Jack, thursday through Sunday for the past month or 2. Defiinately gonna stop that shit.

Im curious about the hypogonadal, because my AST and ASL were higher before in my last test. I also havent been drinking much water. Been pretty damn dehydrated. Just got myself back to being hydrated yesterday.
 
Tim23 said:
I just looked up hypogonadal. How are you able to tell? By the AST and ASL?

I've been on a pretty crazy drinking binge, honestly. I have a high tollerance for alcohol, so Im usually drinking a pretty big bottle of Jack, thursday through Sunday for the past month or 2. Defiinately gonna stop that shit.

Im curious about the hypogonadal, because my AST and ASL were higher before in my last test. I also havent been drinking much water. Been pretty damn dehydrated. Just got myself back to being hydrated yesterday.
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By looking at your TT, LH, FSH ans E2. Hypogonadal means you have Low T; not liver problems.

Atop the binge drinking. Look at what it is going to your liver.
 
I dont drink at all while on cycle. And Im pretty sure Ive had low T for a while. Sex drive has always been pretty low, along with my energy level.
 
Yup... I read that its low T, but the only 2 things out of range had to do with my liver.

So what now? See a doctor for TRT?
 
ive been following this post for a while along with others. Im geting ready to run my 2nd cycle ever. My first was just test for 10 weeks. and got really good gains but didnt PCT correctly. THis go around im looking to do it the right way and looking for oral PCT's. Tim23 can you advise where to get them from? i wanna have everything lined up before getting started.

Looking for: Arimidex, nolva, clomid

And great job with with thread man definitely have learned alot from this one.
 
Hicklyfe87 said:
ive been following this post for a while along with others. Im geting ready to run my 2nd cycle ever. My first was just test for 10 weeks. and got really good gains but didnt PCT correctly. THis go around im looking to do it the right way and looking for oral PCT's. Tim23 can you advise where to get them from? i wanna have everything lined up before getting started.

Looking for: Arimidex, nolva, clomid

And great job with with thread man definitely have learned alot from this one.
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Thanks bro.... but not sure Im allowed to do that here, but I think theres a link or 2 around the site that could help ya.
 
Hicklyfe87 said:
ive been following this post for a while along with others. Im geting ready to run my 2nd cycle ever. My first was just test for 10 weeks. and got really good gains but didnt PCT correctly. THis go around im looking to do it the right way and looking for oral PCT's. Tim23 can you advise where to get them from? i wanna have everything lined up before getting started.

Looking for: Arimidex, nolva, clomid

And great job with with thread man definitely have learned alot from this one.
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Look for the RUI banner ad at the top of your screen. They sell research chemicals.
 
Megatron28 said:
I would. Go into the TRT Forum and read the Basic TRT Overview. Start educating yourself on hypogonadism.
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Okay... So I read what you wrote on TRT. I called an TRT clinic and they told me some conflicting information.

They said Id go on Test for 12 weeks, while using Arimadex. Then go off after 12 weeks and start taking HCG and Clomid for 2-3 weeks, then go back on.

From what Ive read here, HCG is supposed to be used during the cycle and post cycle. Not just post. Also he just said to use Clomid for post and no Nolvadex, and only for 2-3 weeks, then hop right back on Test. Thats another thing that didnt make sense. You also wrote that TRT is a permanent thing, where you dont cycle, unless I read that wrong. They said since Im only 33, that I shouldnt go on it permanently.

So if this is the case, I already have all this stuff and can do it myself and just continue to get blood work done until I figure the correct amounts of Test and Arimadex to use.

Should I try to find a new clinic, or just do this myself?
 
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Tim23 said:
Okay... So I read what you wrote on TRT. I called an TRT clinic and they told me some conflicting information.

They said Id go on Test for 12 weeks, while using Arimadex. Then go off after 12 weeks and start taking HCG and Clomid for 2-3 weeks, then go back on.

From what Ive read here, HCG is supposed to be used during the cycle and post cycle. Not just post. Also he just said to use Clomid for post and no Nolvadex, and only for 2-3 weeks, then hop right back on Test. Thats another thing that didnt make sense. You also wrote that TRT is a permanent thing, where you dont cycle, unless I read that wrong. They said since Im only 33, that I shouldnt go on it permanently.

So if this is the case, I already have all this stuff and can do it myself and just continue to get blood work done until I figure the correct amounts of Test and Arimadex to use.

Should I try to find a new clinic, or just do this myself?
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Run away as fast as you can. Whoever you spoke with at the clinic is retarded.

Have you thought about giving IMT a call if you want to go the clinic route? They know what they are doing, I can promise you that.
 
Megatron28 said:
Run away as fast as you can. Whoever you spoke with at the clinic is retarded.

Have you thought about giving IMT a call if you want to go the clinic route? They know what they are doing, I can promise you that.
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IMT? I googled it and found nada. I see a little banner off to the side here?
 
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