For Some, Anabolic Steroids May Lead to Hard Drugs

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Posted by George Spellwin:

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Men being treated for addiction to heroin or similar drugs are more likely to have been anabolic steroid abusers than alcoholics or cocaine addicts, the results of a small study suggest.

The findings indicate that at least some men who begin abusing steroids may find it easier to progress to opioid drugs such as heroin or oxycodone, which is found in the prescription drugs OxyContin and Percocet.

Seven of 24 men in the study with opioid dependence and previous steroid use learned about such drugs at the gym and later obtained their first opioids from the person who sold them steroids. Eighteen of those men, or 75%, said steroids were the first drugs they had self-injected.

"These observations, while hardly conclusive, suggest that (anabolic) steroid use may have served as a 'gateway' to opioid dependence for these individuals," according to the report in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry.

In the study, Dr. Harrison G. Pope, Jr. of the McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts and colleagues assessed lifetime anabolic steroid use among 223 male substance abusers who were undergoing treatment for alcohol, cocaine or opioids.

Of 88 men who listed an opioid as their preferred drug, 25% reported prior anabolic steroid use, according to the study. Only 5% of men addicted to alcohol or other drugs reported steroid use

The authors say that more studies at other rehabilitation centers need to confirm their findings.

It's possible that anabolic steroids and opioids stimulate similar pathways in the brain, and that people who respond to one class of drug may respond to the other, they said. Or it's possibly that certain "psychological attributes" may make some men prone to abusing both drugs, according to the report.

Anabolic steroids first gained popularity among adult bodybuilders because of their effectiveness in speeding muscle buildup. However, subsequent studies have concluded that chronic use of the drugs increases the risk of a host of health problems including high blood pressure, liver dysfunction, cancer, blood clotting abnormalities and even psychological disturbances.

The American College of Sports Medicine has long condemned the non-medical use of anabolic steroids.

SOURCE: Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 2003;64:156-160.
 
needsize said:
just what our communty needs, an article like this

You don't see the relationship or how one could lead to the other? Come on, that's not being very open-minded.
 
I dont think so bro.
I cant talk about the whole BB community but I wouldnt touch any rec drugs.
I never did any drugs, not even weed.
Only alcohol and AS.
And thats probably as far as I would go.
 
Canuck4 said:
I dont think so bro.
I cant talk about the whole BB community but I wouldnt touch any rec drugs.
I never did any drugs, not even weed.
Only alcohol and AS.
And thats probably as far as I would go.

It starts with popping pills like Zanax, Vals and Vicodine then progresses to other things like Oxycondon, Heroin, etc..It's does happen to quite a few BBer's.
 
True.
It starts slowly and leads to hardest drugs.
But really theres no need for Zanax, Vals, Perks etc.....
You can really get hooked on some of those shits and its hard to get rid of.

Juice Authority said:
It starts with popping pills like Zanax, Vals and Vicodine then progresses to other things like Oxycondon, Heroin, etc..It's does happen to quite a few BBer's.
 
I started taking AS in high school, which was stupid but I really didn't know any better. Then I would party on the weekends, smoke a little weed, get drunk - the usual high school BS. In college, I continued with the AS and started popping downers like Vals, Perks, Vic's - anything I could my hands on. The next thing I knew I fell fleged drug addict. I went to rehab (a few times), got sober and after being sober for several years went back to AS. Now, I don't drink or take drugs (mind altering ones) because personally I can't handle it but I definitely see the relationship between AS and opioid dependence.
 
Why do we have to correlate rec drrugs to BBers? People in all walks of life use them. Its just like saying playing basketball leads to smoking weed, or ballet leads to pain pill addiction. Just because a few bad seeds, doesnt mean there is a link.
 
Canuck4 said:
I dont think so bro.
I cant talk about the whole BB community but I wouldnt touch any rec drugs.
I never did any drugs, not even weed.
Only alcohol and AS.
And thats probably as far as I would go.

I'm in the same boat as you bro. i drink socially but that's it...i tried weed but that was before I ever juiced...
 
needsize said:
just what our communty needs, an article like this

Yep....

Luckily, we're all "users" not an "abusers", so the article doesn't apply to us :)

Some guys do seem to get bummed when they're off cycle and not injecting, so I suppose it could lead to some problems if they have an addictive type personality, and just have to use those extra pins lying around.

To RoadHouses point, 25% correlation with Heroin, vs 5% for other drugs is a significant difference. Could just mean those who've used Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) aren't afraid of needles anymore too.
 
RoadHouse said:
Why do we have to correlate rec drrugs to BBers? People in all walks of life use them. Its just like saying playing basketball leads to smoking weed, or ballet leads to pain pill addiction. Just because a few bad seeds, doesnt mean there is a link.

Exactly.......just someone (George) trying to stir up some controversy.

What a waste of board space !!
 
I personally beleive that any type of drug user is more prone to use other drugs, that is just my opinion. Once you use one the legal issue is usually out the window. Once you descensitize yourself to injections, why not move on to IV injections. Now i don't think this is just for steroids but everything, just like they say pot is a gateway drug, i personally think everything is a gateway drug. I have done a lot of coke, x, smoked week, shrooms, acid, presc meds, whatever was around in college, but taking my first shot of test was the hardest thing i ever did because no matter what i learned, i still the brainwashing i was given growing up in the back of my head. This is really just my opinion and my own personal experiences so please don't flame me.
 
I know a few Bros including myself that, used coke or heroin before using AAS. So I guess we are the opposite of what the article is saying.

JohnnyB
 
I have found that thy gym and AS actually keep me sober and drug free. I used to be heavy into the party seen. I believe it has more to do with an addictive personality. I can say I am no longer addicted but then again, when I have to take my two days off from the gym, I am a caged animal and only feel good on the days when I am getting in the workouts. This may also be because of the heavy endorphine release from intense workouts but then again, if you gotta be addicted to something this is the way to go (training not necessarily AS). I believe the "addiction" to the AS are not an addiction to the AS, rather an addiction to the high one receives from validation from friends and family and the ego stroke that it provokes. It would be interesting how many people that are into bodybuilding were actually mentally abused as kids leading to almost obsolete self worth and esteem.
 
i second house1s :bsflag: ive never so much as taken a toke in my life , i have to be in SEVERE pain to take a painkiller that is prescribed for me , where the hell do these people come up with this shit ?
 
It makes sense to me. We are all a little self-destructive to be shooting crap in our ass knowing that the long term effects are not good. To an ordinary person this is risky business we take part in!
 
I've never been into drugs anyway, and drinking only a little. Now I am a pretty heavy user of anabolics, and I dont even drink anymore. Anyone using steroids in a non recreational manner is much less likely to mess with any of that other stuff , it just interferes with what you're trying to do in the first place
 
I like the Bros I've met here and on other boards but the judgmental attitude towards "rec" drug users of past or present is pretty hypocritical IMO. It's like some of you based on your responses are looking down your nose at someone who has had or has problems with drugs or alcohol thinking that you are somehow above them because all you is inject steroids into your body versus snorting a line or popping a few pain pills. I'm sorry, that's fucking ridiculous.

I have personally hit rock bottom several times in the past due my excesses in those areas and have since gained a healthy respect for the power drugs and alcohol can have over people's lives, myself included. I apologize for posting this article. Obviously it has created some controversy and incited some pretty ignorant remarks. That was not the intention.
 
Juice Authority said:
I like the Bros I've met here and on other boards but the judgmental attitude towards "rec" drug users of past or present is pretty hypocritical IMO. It's like some of you based on your responses are looking down your nose at someone who has had or has problems with drugs or alcohol thinking that you are somehow above them because all you is inject steroids into your body versus snorting a line or popping a few pain pills. I'm sorry, that's fucking ridiculous.

I have personally hit rock bottom several times in the past due my excesses in those areas and have since gained a healthy respect for the power drugs and alcohol can have over people's lives, myself included. I apologize for posting this article. Obviously it has created some controversy and incited some pretty ignorant remarks. That was not the intention.
were not flaming you we just dont agree with the article , and a lot of the anti rec drug sentiment stems from the fact that a lot of good bros on boards like these have been busted because of sources who carry rec stuff , and the people who use them , when a rec drug dealer who also carries as gets busted the heat in our community gets turned up and people go down :( ,
 
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