For Some, Anabolic Steroids May Lead to Hard Drugs

[needsize]

I dont look down on anyone who uses rec drugs, I just dont belive there is a connection between steroid use and rec drug use. I use steroids to improve my physique because I want to compete, where are rec drugs would have the opposite effect

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I like the Bros I've met here and on other boards but the judgmental attitude towards "rec" drug users of past or present is pretty hypocritical IMO. It's like some of you based on your responses are looking down your nose at someone who has had or has problems with drugs or alcohol thinking that you are somehow above them because all you is inject steroids into your body versus snorting a line or popping a few pain pills. I'm sorry, that's fucking ridiculous.

I have personally hit rock bottom several times in the past due my excesses in those areas and have since gained a healthy respect for the power drugs and alcohol can have over people's lives, myself included. I apologize for posting this article. Obviously it has created some controversy and incited some pretty ignorant remarks. That was not the intention.

I thought this thread was about something George Spellwin wrote.......

........everyone was giving their opinion on that........., how do you turn it into something about you ???

 

[Juice Authority]

I thought this thread was about something George Spellwin wrote.......

........everyone was giving their opinion on that........., how do you turn it into something about you ???

I think I read too much into it since I was the one who posted the article here. Anyway, I didn't mean to single anyone out in particular. I was speaking more towards the general attitude, AS users seem to have towards "rec" drug users. The decision to do a cycle is a serious one as AS effects your hormone levels, causes anxiety, stress, aggression, sleep deprivation, etc., to name a few. These are some of the well-known side effects that could lead one to take Zanax, Val's, Vic's, Nubain, etc. That's where I saw the connection.

 

[Annonamous1]

I have tried almost every rec drug out there back in high school. Weightlifting and AS use showed me what a waste those other drugs are and helped me get my priorities straight about where I wanted to be with my life. I disagree with saying AS lead to other drugs.

 

[Juice Authority]

I have tried almost every rec drug out there back in high school. Weightlifting and AS use showed me what a waste those other drugs are and helped me get my priorities straight about where I wanted to be with my life. I disagree with saying AS lead to other drugs.

Good point.

 

[Dominique]

I think there's a big difference in taking any kind "drug" to improve your Body(doing something for yourself), and taking hard drugs such as heroin. Most people who are into BB, are very health conscious and don't want to end up fucked up on drugs.
Also I believe only weak people who are not in peace with them selves slide into harder drugs and get addicted.

 

[Juice Authority]

Also I believe only weak people who are not in peace with them selves slide into harder drugs and get addicted.

This is the attitude I was referring to before. The AMA (American Medical Association) would disagree with this as it's a proven medical fact that alcoholism and drug addiction is just as much a malady of the body as it is the mind. It was recognized as a disease in the 70's. The characteristics of a disease are something that is chronic, progressive and fatal. So what that basically means is that alcoholics drink to overcome a physical craving beyond their mental control. Same goes for Heroin.

 

[jcp2]

I will say this, I see more "juiceheads" walking around the clubs in Jersey and especially the Jersey shore fucked up carrying their water bottle shirtless and covered in oil. It may not be the majority that use rec drugs, but it sure as shit seems like it here. It also seems to me like the guys who are out partying and doing rec drugs are not responding to this thread. It also seems to me that the bodybuilders are using rec drugs to because they don't want to consume alcohol and take in all the calories.

 

[RoadHouse]

It also seems to me that the bodybuilders are using rec drugs to because they don't want to consume alcohol and take in all the calories.

Exactly, yet no one looks down upon someone who is drunk, they usually laugh. Drinkiong Alcohol to the point of inebreation is just as bad on the body, or worse, than vicodin, xanaxs, valium, GHB etc. They dont want extra metabolism slowing alcohol, so they turn to these, X, or ketamine.

 

[jcp2]

Exactly, yet no one looks down upon someone who is drunk, they usually laugh. Drinkiong Alcohol to the point of inebreation is just as bad on the body, or worse, than vicodin, xanaxs, valium, GHB etc. They dont want extra metabolism slowing alcohol, so they turn to these, X, or ketamine.

I agree, to a point. I don't know about where everyone else is from but we have people od'ing on G every year down the shore. I will say it is much easier to od on G, or have serious side affects from x, due to the impurity of whatever you are getting on the street. You at least know what you are getting when you order a bud light.

 

[RoadHouse]

Most BBers dont weigh health risks or we wouldnt be taking 2-3g of gear a week. The calorie free high is what they are looking for.

 

[compman]

Agreed Roadhouse! We are thinking about today and not 20 years from now, otherwise, we would not be putting this toll on our bodies and especially livers. People who use recreational drugs also only think about today and no matter what drug it may be(including steroids) there is a component of impulsiveness.

It's no different than people who smoke cigarettes. It has been proven to cause cancer, heart disease, etc. but there are still a ton of smokers. We damn well know that being on gear causes many of problems down the road, yet looking good today is more important. These are typical traits of addictive behavior.

I would have never guessed in a million years when I was a kid that I'd be sticking needles in my ass. The most signifiacnt point I am going to make here is that unless you are taking steroids to become a Professional bodybuilder than the steroids you are on are for recreational purposes. Taking a drug which makes you look good, ultimately makes you feel good. Starting on 250mg a week of test, and going up to 500mg, then 1000mg is drug abuse! More, more, more. More=bigger! It's addictive behavior and I am aware of it. Others should be, too!

 

[Juice Authority]

Agreed Roadhouse! We are thinking about today and not 20 years from now, otherwise, we would not be putting this toll on our bodies and especially livers. People who use recreational drugs also only think about today and no matter what drug it may be(including steroids) there is a component of impulsiveness.

It's no different than people who smoke cigarettes. It has been proven to cause cancer, heart disease, etc. but there are still a ton of smokers. We damn well know that being on gear causes many of problems down the road, yet looking good today is more important. These are typical traits of addictive behavior.

I would have never guessed in a million years when I was a kid that I'd be sticking needles in my ass. The most signifiacnt point I am going to make here is that unless you are taking steroids to become a Professional bodybuilder than the steroids you are on are for recreational purposes. Taking a drug which makes you look good, ultimately makes you feel good. Starting on 250mg a week of test, and going up to 500mg, then 1000mg is drug abuse! More, more, more. More=bigger! It's addictive behavior and I am aware of it. Others should be, too!

That was very well put and was the whole point of this thread. I don't see how anyone smart or dumb can argue with this.

 

[Dominique]

This is the attitude I was referring to before. The AMA (American Medical Association) would disagree with this as it's a proven medical fact that alcoholism and drug addiction is just as much a malady of the body as it is the mind. It was recognized as a disease in the 70's. The characteristics of a disease are something that is chronic, progressive and fatal. So what that basically means is that alcoholics drink to overcome a physical craving beyond their mental control. Same goes for Heroin.

My point is, that some people try something and get hooked right away. Others do not. I hang out with quite a few Strange folk(ravers), most of them consume extasy and speed in huge quanteties. Some of them only do it every now and then others are on, at all times. If you have no regular life goin' besides livin' for the next party it's easy to drift into hardcore drug abuse. I see it almost every day in my job,dealing with musicians and people in the entertainment industrie.

 

[ironmaster]

For those of us who have addictive personalities, habitual steroid use is a positive thing compared to the alternative.

 

[DADAWG]

say what you want about comparing rec users to as users but the fact is ive never turned on the six oclock news and watched police car chase involving a hopped up deca user or a wreck that killed innocent lives because a winstrol user was to high to control his vehicle and plowed into a school bus , people dont steal/murder/rob/riot for as at anywhere the rate that they do for rec drugs . flame me if you want but these are facts , and just because you or your friends choose to use rec drugs doesnt change the facts , flame suit installed let it rip

 

[SWALE]

I used steroids for the entire 1980's. Now I smoke good cigars--one per week. I feel my previous Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) usage has led me to love fine cigars.

 

[JohnnyB]

For those of us who have addictive personalities, habitual steroid use is a positive thing compared to the alternative.

It is a great alternative.

JohnnyB

 

[snake]

I don't believ there is a connection to steroids being a gateway drug to opiods or what ever the fuck they are. Some people that use steroids are using them for the wrong reasons these people suffer from probably a variety of self esteem issues and are probably suseptable to addiction in the first place. You can use statistics to prove anything you want. You just have to find the right cluster of people and you can find any corolation you want. People have been doing this for years to give steroids a bad name. Steroids Don't make the person an addict. Chances are these people would find there way to addiction with or without steroid use.

 

[M56M]

I will say this, I see more "juiceheads" walking around the clubs in Jersey and especially the Jersey shore fucked up carrying their water bottle shirtless and covered in oil. It may not be the majority that use rec drugs, but it sure as shit seems like it here. It also seems to me like the guys who are out partying and doing rec drugs are not responding to this thread. It also seems to me that the bodybuilders are using rec drugs to because they don't want to consume alcohol and take in all the calories.

I would have to agree about this, but i think its the other way around from this article, you get into the club scene, then drugs then AS.

And the whole Alcohol idea, is a big part why alot of my friends, don't drink alcohol also, so another good point.

But i think alot of people who say "i would never do something to hurt my body...blah blah blah.." And what is AS a vitamin?? I mean honestly people, yes there is certain degrees to drugs, but AS is NOT good for you, and yes i do it, but i just hate when people make it sounds like they "care for the health soo much" and then we all use steriods, if we did then we wouldn't use roids or take any rec. drugs. And i am not preaching, becuase i have done both, but then again i don't preach about health...

But thats just my opion...

M56M