Gains = response to drugs

[DreDay187]

What I don't get still is this:

1) he says if you respond good to gear you can have a shit diet and make gains (this also means a good diet will get you better gains).

2) he was running over a gram of gear and got disappointing gains

This means either one of two things:

1) his shitty diet lead to no gains which then means he doesn't respond good to gear according to point 1 above and his OP which means diet is more important than gear (he blames it on the caloric deficit)

Or

2) he responds great to gear and his diet was the limiting factor regardless of the gear.

Either way it leads back to diet and he specifically says diet is last in the equation. Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems it's tantamount since a gram of gear or more got him what? 2lbs???

 

[DreDay187]

After all the lies, backtracking, shifting the argument I'm having a hard time believing he's 48yo (kids have more logic and maturity than he's showing), having a hard time he has any worthwhile AAS/training/dietary experience worth sharing, and most of all I call bullshit on the national level competitor. You couldn't even place in an amateur show

 

[3J]

well, you know dem boys from manchester.. dem teeth doe?

 

[Inhuman2012]

I agree completely dreday . He was just giving advice to a noob saying 250mg test a week is a sufficient dose but then in another thread states how he runs over a gram.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Good food as in a nice rib eye steak and a pile of fries?
Lots of protien fats and carbs in there, some people would call that junk food.
Whats wrong with KFC by the way?
Protien fats and very little carbs, not bad choice TBH. Hasn't done Lee Priest much harm.

the fryes if baked,, no not bad. although i dont eat meat myself.

KFC is crapp , just because LEE looks good on the outside doesn't mean his insides are all that healthy or great... keep that in mind.... the outter doesnt always reflect the inner. the amount of "bad" fats in there and lack of nutrients would be what make me call KFC junk food.... + amount of calories with no added nutrition,....

I knew a pro guy that competed and would be at 5-6% bf even when bulking, he LOVED his coke and meth... looked healthy, was big and not skinny.... doesnt mean he is healthy or doing the right thing....

 

[Black Beard]

the fryes if baked,, no not bad. Although i dont eat meat myself.

Kfc is crapp , just because lee looks good on the outside doesn't mean his insides are all that healthy or great... Keep that in mind.... The outter doesnt always reflect the inner. The amount of "bad" fats in there and lack of nutrients would be what make me call kfc junk food.... + amount of calories with no added nutrition,....

I knew a pro guy that competed and would be at 5-6% bf even when bulking, he loved his coke and meth... Looked healthy, was big and not skinny.... Doesnt mean he is healthy or doing the right thing....

lmfao

 

[DreDay187]

I'm betting he's that Dayhawk/FCastle/AlphaKenny1/etc guy. The one who made a bunch of I p addresses after getting banned multiple times.

 

[555_____]

Has everyone calmed down yet.

He was just giving advice to a noob saying 250mg test a week is a sufficient dose but then in another thread states how he runs over a gram.

Go and read the thread and then try and work out why I was advising him to take 250mgs
I have run over a gram once in 25 years, I wont be doing it again.

 

[555_____]

I'm betting he's that Dayhawk/FCastle/AlphaKenny1/etc guy. The one who made a bunch of I p addresses after getting banned multiple times.

No its my first time here, it will be my last as well, you guys are too set in your ways to have your broscience beliefs challenged.

 

[555_____]

well, you know dem boys from manchester.. dem teeth doe?

Aw ..been checking IP addresses have we?
Stalker number 1

 

[Black Beard]

No its my first time here, it will be my last as well, you guys are too set in your ways to have your broscience beliefs challenged.

and now you come to realize that your time as a troll on these forums is up. It won't work anymore so your packin your bags and getting ready to go. It was fun while it lasted 555. I bid you farewell and good luck on your next escapade.

 

[555_____]

training + diet = gains
diet + gear= nothing
training + gear = good gains
Training + gear+ diet= better gains.

I have never during this thread said that a combo of all three wasnt the best option, my point was that diet isnt the most important, it is in fact in third place behind training and gear.

 

[555_____]

and now you come to realize that your time as a troll on these forums is up. It won't work anymore so your packin your bags and getting ready to go. It was fun while it lasted 555. I bid you farewell and good luck on your next escapade.

Oh I'm not going anywhere of my free will, its just i have a sense of doom already with people checking IPs who really shouldn't be able to check IPs as they dont seem to be a moderator??
Backstage shenanigins methinks.

 

[3J]

training + diet = gains
diet + gear= nothing
training + gear = good gains
Training + gear+ diet= better gains.

I have never during this thread said that a combo of all three wasnt the best option, my point was that diet isnt the most important, it is in fact in third place behind training and gear.

youre still an idiot.. and this post just further verifies my point...

its always diet first... ALWAYS

 

[555_____]

youre still an idiot.. and this post just further verifies my point...

its always diet first... ALWAYS

You keep telling yourself that.

 

[gram of tren]

i would have to co-sign here guys...

i am really getting tired of hearing this shit about drugs doing the most of the work..

gram, your a contributor of the board but have done this multiple times.. i can see the OP being a complete idiot but your vague statements have probably given a bunch of n00bs a steroid hard on... you are doing nothing but proliferating the "magic pill' myth...

i'd appreciate it if you were more careful with your words.. because your sending out alot of misinformation..

OP, you should quiet down now.. you really dont know what youre talking about.. your actually embarrassing yourself pretty damn bady

what vague statements and misinformation am i giving? i understand youre a nutritionist so of course youre gonna push that diet is #1, but in reality it is not. Diet is important no doubt, but genetics, training, and drugs also play a major role.

 

[Rida5d]

what vague statements and misinformation am i giving? i understand youre a nutritionist so of course youre gonna push that diet is #1, but in reality it is not. Diet is important no doubt, but genetics, training, and drugs also play a major role.

Why are refusing the fact that 99% of the people don't have ur super xtra great beautiful genetics ?

 

[gram of tren]

It seems there is a bit of favoritism on this board that should be addressed. Several members are allowed to insult the OP and call him names because he has a difference of opinion, with no action from the moderators. Even threats to ban the OP for arguing and defending his point of view. This thread is a debate, 555 is debating one side of the argument and a few of you guys are debating the other side of the argument. Just because you disagree does not mean the other side needs to be insulted or banned. This is a message board for steroids. It's purpose is to bring us together to discuss topics and share our knowledge on the subjects. Just because he or I doesnt agree with the majority does not mean we are wrong, or our opinions dont matter. Agree to disagree and move on. The threats to ban a guy and the insults because he shares a difference in opinion is childish.

 

[555_____]

The fact is its guys that keep banging on about how important diet is and to get a good base (oh brother) before they ever even think about taking gear that causes so much wasted time on the part of newbies.
I trained for three years eating right and training hard natty and when I finally took the plunge I gained more in my first year than in my previous three years natty.

Im not here to tell people what to do I'm just telling it like it is.

 

[gram of tren]

Why are refusing the fact that 99% of the people don't have ur super xtra great beautiful genetics ?

Just because you have weak genetics doesnt mean everybody does. Most likely you're training isnt very intense so you chalk up your physique to bad genetics.