I have some fake QV test(hologram peels off and leaves dots) running 800mgs and no gains...lot # is qvt008 exp 01 of 2006..I THINK i also have some underdosed EQ lot qvb 008 exp 12 of 2005 and some underdosed TE QVE 011 exp 11 2005.....I am not a newbie here..I have been doing large cycles for about 7 years now..During this last cycle I have felt flat and actually lost strength.....I have only gained 2lbs. in 5 weeks at starting at 500mgs and moving to 800mgs of test and 600mgs of EQ both weekly....anyone else having trouble with these products....