Gw-50 question... Cutting through pct

PrinceDianabol

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Hey guys,

Just about to start a run of GW-50. Gonna run it now right through and after my PCT.

What are thoughts on staying at a cut throughout PCT with the use of GW-50? Or would i be better off stayin at maintenane/bulk during PCT.

My thoughts being the sarm should help prevent catabolism whilst cutting in a low test state... Let me know your opinions :)
 
Hey guys,

Just about to start a run of GW-50. Gonna run it now right through and after my PCT.

What are thoughts on staying at a cut throughout PCT with the use of GW-50? Or would i be better off stayin at maintenane/bulk during PCT.

My thoughts being the sarm should help prevent catabolism whilst cutting in a low test state... Let me know your opinions :)

Its a great idea!
 
You dont think my recovery will be affected by a caloric deficit? I'll probably go keto so plenty of fats in the diet aswell... Just don't wanna effect my natty test coming back
 
I wouldn't do it. Leptin mediates the HPG axis; when you diet, leptin drops, which signals the body to shut down reproductive processes (gross oversimplification but it gets the point across, let me know if you want some studies or a more detailed explanation). You're working against yourself by dieting - basically, other mechanisms generated by the caloric deficit are going to be keeping you from restoring full function of your HPG system. I'd say maintenance cals for the entire PCT period.
 
I wouldn't do it. Leptin mediates the HPG axis; when you diet, leptin drops, which signals the body to shut down reproductive processes (gross oversimplification but it gets the point across, let me know if you want some studies or a more detailed explanation). You're working against yourself by dieting - basically, other mechanisms generated by the caloric deficit are going to be keeping you from restoring full function of your HPG system. I'd say maintenance cals for the entire PCT period.

Damn. That's on the same train of thought I was thinking... just in less detail in my head haha.

Just a thought - is there any way (through more frequent structured refeeds) I could keep Leptin upregulated more often than not, in turn not affecting recovery too much?

For example: refeed every three or four days or so... Not optimal I know, but If I'm at a deficit for 2-3 days before each refeed I'd still be creating a decent deficit over the PCT period of four weeks - whilst keeping Leptin from ever dropping too low?
 
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Dont do it, youre risking throwing away the gains you made on cycle, run keep calories high during PCT, run GW throughout like you said and begin your cut after you are recovered. youre shooting yourself in the foot going into deficit now
 
Dont do it, youre risking throwing away the gains you made on cycle, run keep calories high during PCT, run GW throughout like you said and begin your cut after you are recovered. youre shooting yourself in the foot going into deficit now

I didn't make much gains on this cycle, as I ran most of it as a cut. To be honest though it was a poorly planned cycle. I appreciate your input though brother thanks.

Quite interested to know if creating a deficit worth doing whilst keeping leptin from down regulating is possible though. I'm more concerned about my recovery rather than keeping gains if you know what I mean.
 
I didn't make much gains on this cycle, as I ran most of it as a cut. To be honest though it was a poorly planned cycle. I appreciate your input though brother thanks.

Quite interested to know if creating a deficit worth doing whilst keeping leptin from down regulating is possible though. I'm more concerned about my recovery rather than keeping gains if you know what I mean.

IMO keeping gains and recovery go hand in hand, your body is going to have its hands full trying to re-regulate your hormones...than factor in a calorie defecit which throws off balances anyways as your body needs to adjust. Im not saying it cant be done, but I personally would not be willing to try it and I would not promote the idea to anyone else either. Im sure plenty have done it before and hopefully theyll chime in
 
The short answer is: Focus on recovery only during PCT :)

During pct your body is going through a pretty extensive recovery phase, dieting in any form is going to produce more stress & make the entire recovery process much more difficult. Not impossible, just more difficult.
Theoretically it should be possible to cut during pct, but until I can see it in action, with the appropriate measurements of physiological changes during the process, I wouldn't recommend it - Barnzy is right on this.

To answer some of the questions you had:

You dont think my recovery will be affected by a caloric deficit? I'll probably go keto so plenty of fats in the diet aswell... Just don't wanna effect my natty test coming back

Dieting DOES, temporarily, reduce testosterone levels.
So combining PCT (were your trying to recover your natty levels) with dieting (reduces natty levels) is a very bad idea on many levels. Whether it would permanently reduce your test levels, I doubt it - it would probably just mean that you need to spend longer on pct & recovery then usual.

Just a thought - is there any way (through more frequent structured refeeds) I could keep Leptin upregulated more often than not, in turn not affecting recovery too much?

Refeeds can upregulate leptin temporarily, the levels will drop again within 2/3 days. So you would need 2 refeeds per week to keep leptin at a decent level; 2 high carb, high maintenance days will wipe out a moderate caloric deficit done during the other 5 days.
In terms of your idea of running a modified PSMF/keto diet, if your doing a refeed 2x week then your not really doing a psmf/keto because at no point will you be fully glycogen depleted or in keto (unless you plan on training 2/3x per day).
Basically, the fat loss results will be really poor, hence not worth it.
 
Mrripped, your last statement is really where my thoughts were, the timing, cals, training have to be so on point, down to such an exact for it to really be "effective" its just not worth it, the way youre dieting would have to be run in order to upregulate, while still remaining in a deficit, while still trying to recover..you would have so many conflicting factors you'd basically be fighting yourself
 
Aahh thank you guys... That makes much more sense now. Oh well was just a thought.
Maybe Ill just run a bulk through PCT... I kind of feel eating at maintenance is a waste of time lol, not going anywhere.

From here til PCT gonna be strict ass PSMF in that case. I just want to be lean!! Lol
 
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