Help me choose cycle!

[Venom]

I could definately use some help in choosing a good first cycle.
I have two different options.
The first one is Winstrol (winny) 50mg EOD for 6 weeks together with 200mg of Primo EW for 10 8 weeks. If I can't get any Primo I'll go for Deca instead.
Do you think 6 weeks is enough for Winstrol (winny)? Do you think I'll need any Proviron to keep my dick working properly? Gyno shouldn't really be of concerne here, right,...so Nolva isn't really necessary...am I right?! Post cycle with clomid incl.

The other cycle I'm thinking of is a tes only cycle. I would run 250mg of Enanthate for 10 weeks. With Nolva in case gyno would start to appear. Do you think Proviron is necessary or is armididex better for keeping down the bloat and fighting unwanted estrogen??
Clomid postcycle.

I'm 21 years old.
181 cm tall.
Weigh 80 kg
And I've been lifting for 5 years.
I'm looking to build a lean bodymass. I want to become stronger but also look harder. I'm looking to gain about 5 kg.

 

[bronco944]

first id foprget about the primo. too hard to find legit primo. deca and Winstrol (winny) might work good, but you risk a loss in libido. test only would be a good choice, but id use at least 400 mg's if your using 250 mg amps shoot an amp every 4 days. i doubt youd need any proviron or arimidex. jsut keep nolva on hand incase you are very prone to gyno. although if you have the proviron it will increase the amount of free test in your blood stream.

 

[house1]

i would run
dbol 25 mg 1 - 4 weeks
500 a week enanthate 1 - 10 weeks
400 a week EQ 1 - 10 weeks
split your doses up monday 250 enanthate 200 EQ
thursday 250 enathate 200 EQ




MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ANTI ES ON HAND AND CLOMID FOR POST CYCLE RECOVERY.

 

[house1]

if you do decide to run test only i would up it to 500 a week split between monday and thursday

 

[StoneColdNTO]

For your first cycle, I would suggest you keep it real simple, no need to use 2 or 3 compounds, and most certainly not orals.

IMO, 250 mg of test/week is a little too low, but 500/week is bordering on too high.

Why don't you go with 350-400 mg test/week, you will definitely want to have some Nolvadex on hand, as for bloat, you could use some Arimedex is it gets to be too much, but you probably won't have a problem with bloat at that dosage.

Just make sure your diet and training are in order, and be prepared to grow.

 

[fatchops]

Test @ 500mg/wk for 10 weeks. If u want add some dbol. Diet is the key

 

[Mystical]

For my first cycle I ran 400-450mg Enanthate/week and 25mg dbol/week and gained a good 25 pounds of lean. I also gained 10 or so pound of fat but I was eating everything and anything I could get my hands on. I am sure if my diet was cleaner I wouldn't have put on so much fat, but then I wasn't worried about putting on fat I was looking for mass of any sort at that point... So far I have taken off most of the fat, and kept pretty much all the lean. I'll know for sure next week if I lost any lean since coming off.

 

[JohnnyB]

For your first cycle, I would suggest you keep it real simple, no need to use 2 or 3 compounds, and most certainly not orals.

IMO, 250 mg of test/week is a little too low, but 500/week is bordering on too high.

Why don't you go with 350-400 mg test/week, you will definitely want to have some Nolvadex on hand, as for bloat, you could use some Arimedex is it gets to be too much, but you probably won't have a problem with bloat at that dosage.

Just make sure your diet and training are in order, and be prepared to grow.

I agree with SC keep it simple, save the stacking for a later cycles.

JohnnyB

 

[RoadHouse]

250mg Ethanate e5d

 

[Venom]

Ok. Thanks for all the helpful answers!
Just curious...how much Arimedex would be sufficient to take to keep down the bloat(if even necessary) when taking 350mg of Test/week?
Would 1/4 of a tab do it?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Ok. Thanks for all the helpful answers!
Just curious...how much Arimedex would be sufficient to take to keep down the bloat(if even necessary) when taking 350mg of Test/week?
Would 1/4 of a tab do it?

1/4 tab should be more than sufficient, being as they are so small, you might want to take 1/2 tab EOD instead. The half life of it is around 48 hours, so EOD won't be a problem.

 

[JohnnyB]

1/4 tab should be more than sufficient, being as they are so small, you might want to take 1/2 tab EOD instead. The half life of it is around 48 hours, so EOD won't be a problem.

I agree with SC again With either arimidex or femara you could do the samething.

JohnnyB

 

[JohnnyB]

250mg Ethanate e5d

That's what I'm doing on my cycle, with 225 of EQ. That gives me 350mg of test and 300mg of EQ a week for 14-16 weeks.

JohnnyB