Help with blood work. Estrogen levels through the roof!

[Cygnus_Taxt]

Wow. 79.9 out of 7.6-42.6 pg/mL? Not sure why this is. I thought I've might had low T levels..but I didn't want to make excuses. I have a pretty solid diet (bulking near 3000 calories), get plenty of rest every night, and have since moved from a pretty stressful job. I also don't drink anymore. Should I go to my personal doctor or skip him and just go to an endo to bring these levels down?

Stats:

31
5' 6"
148lbs
~18% bf

Obviously I have a lot more potential before sticking a needle in anything (never done a real cycle, only a PH). But I'm here to do all the research once that time comes. It seems harder than it should to put on mass. Could this be the reason why? Any help is appreciated

 

[PrinceDianabol]

It's certainly high but I wouldn't call it through the roof. I've had it in the hundreds before lol. Dropping your body fat down will lessen aromatization. You can try your doctor, most of them have no idea what they're doing though. An endo would be best, they'll probably put you on a high dose aromatase inhibitor. Which you could do yourself if you have access to blood work.

 

[Cygnus_Taxt]

Ok that makes me feel better. Ha. I just wasn't sure how *out of range that actually was. I was planning on going with 3J to tighten up my diet. I wanted to keep bulking until the spring or something. Do you think this is having a substantial affect on my training?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Ok that makes me feel better. Ha. I just wasn't sure how *out of range that actually was. I was planning on going with 3J to tighten up my diet. I wanted to keep bulking until the spring or something. Do you think this is having a substantial affect on my training?

It's not too bad. The general rule of thumb is to start worrying when the value is 2-3x higher than the upper limit.

Actually, estrogen will help build muscle. The only way it will negatively effect your training is if it's making you fatigued/lethargic and therefore your training intensity suffers... other than that it will only help.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...9-estrogen-forgotten-key-building-muscle.html

 

[Cygnus_Taxt]

Yeah I'm having issues w/ fatigue/lethargy and libido and whatnot. That's why I suspected T levels. I came off a PH run of Epi a little bit ago and did a PCT w/ Nolva and SUP3R PCT. It's been a few weeks and now I'm using ABE/Ara, Erase Pro and Reduce XT. I wonder if E levels would be even higher w/o the Erase. Hmm. I guess the best thing I can do is see an Endo. Thanks for that link.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

How long exactly since you ended pct? what compounds and doses did you use exactly? Your likely still affected by them, and the results above could be elevated due to that. How does it compare to your baseline bloods? LH especially?

 

[Megatron28]

Yeah I'm having issues w/ fatigue/lethargy and libido and whatnot. That's why I suspected T levels. I came off a PH run of Epi a little bit ago and did a PCT w/ Nolva and SUP3R PCT. It's been a few weeks and now I'm using ABE/Ara, Erase Pro and Reduce XT. I wonder if E levels would be even higher w/o the Erase. Hmm. I guess the best thing I can do is see an Endo. Thanks for that link.

Kind of buried the lead, didn't you!

 

[Cygnus_Taxt]

How long exactly since you ended pct? what compounds and doses did you use exactly? Your likely still affected by them, and the results above could be elevated due to that. How does it compare to your baseline bloods? LH especially?

That's the thing...I don't have a baseline I know, I know...

Its been about 3 weeks since the pct.

I did:

Epi 30/45/45/45/45/45
Ar1macare: 4/4/4/4/4/4

PCT:

Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Sup3r PCT: 4/4/3/3/2/1
Reduce XT: 0/0/3/3/3/3
Erase: 0/0/3/3/3/3
DAA: 3/3/3/3/3/3

plus the ABE and ara.

Kind of buried the lead, didn't you!

Err, I have no idea what you mean. Too many compounds?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

That's the thing...I don't have a baseline I know, I know...

Its been about 3 weeks since the pct.

I did:

Epi 30/45/45/45/45/45
Ar1macare: 4/4/4/4/4/4

PCT:

Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Sup3r PCT: 4/4/3/3/2/1
Reduce XT: 0/0/3/3/3/3
Erase: 0/0/3/3/3/3
DAA: 3/3/3/3/3/3

plus the ABE and ara.





Err, I have no idea what you mean. Too many compounds?

He means you left out a lot of important information lol. You will still be effected by the nolva, so your all levels are probably elevated.. plus whatever inhibition of the negative feedback loop its causing is probably why your e2 is high (your brain doesn't realise that it is high.) I'd just give it another 3 weeks, then retest blood and see where you at. With any luck it'll stabilize itself.

You said your still taking ABE/Ara, Erase Pro and Reduce XT? I don't know what those are but you should probably drop them before testing blood again (especially if any of those impact the HPTA at all.)

 

[Cygnus_Taxt]

He means you left out a lot of important information lol. You will still be effected by the nolva, so your all levels are probably elevated.. plus whatever inhibition of the negative feedback loop its causing is probably why your e2 is high (your brain doesn't realise that it is high.) I'd just give it another 3 weeks, then retest blood and see where you at. With any luck it'll stabilize itself.

You said your still taking ABE/Ara, Erase Pro and Reduce XT? I don't know what those are but you should probably drop them before testing blood again (especially if any of those impact the HPTA at all.)

Yeah I guess that was important info. Ha. I felt the same before the PH run though. Been like that for a while. I actually felt great while on the cycle. Reduce XT helps control cortisol, Anabeta Elite is a natural anabolic and Erase Pro is essentially an OTC aromatase inhibitor. I will test again in a few weeks w/o these supplements.

 

[DucBase]

I saw a couple things that would make me think you cycled but then I read where you said you hadn't, so I stepped back and waited for the smarter guys.

PH is a cycle IMO, needles or not.

 

[Cygnus_Taxt]

^^^

Yeah I've edited it to reflect that.

 

[3J]

Ok that makes me feel better. Ha. I just wasn't sure how *out of range that actually was. I was planning on going with 3J to tighten up my diet. I wanted to keep bulking until the spring or something. Do you think this is having a substantial affect on my training?

just take the steps to get it under control..

and email me when ready!! 3jdiet@gmail.com the january special is still going on!!

 

[tury694]

It isn't that high dude. On 600 mg of test mine was at over 170 lol. I upped my adex dosage and all is well. Be carefull if you play around with an ai. Estrogen crash is not fun my friend.