High Dose Test And Tren, Junk Not Working Right

[KingK]

Ok this for a good friend of mine thats a dummy and wont research or ask questions till hes in trouble... hes been on for 6 months first taking 1000mg test/800mg EQ and now taking 1500mg test and 600mg tren a week and has not been taking any AI this entire time because "ive never had any issues". well now his dick isnt working right and he was asking me if he should take clomid and i personally dont think thats a good idea (he plans to stay on, not for pct). i feel like the test has fkd with his estrogen levels and boosted them and suggested taking Adex and cut the test back and see if that helps (i also suggested blood work to be sure and he shot that down). just trying to help out a good dude that makes bad decisions. anybody got any further advice other than what i have shot him? Hes a 250lb monster and i doubt that dose of tren is causing it, but could i be wrong? ive taken alot of different stuff and some pretty damn high dosages but always AI and never had any issues with my junk unless ive come off and thats just temp loss of libido, he says it "isnt working right", i also asked about any signs of gyno which he has NONE. what you guys think?? anything else i should ask him?? thanks in advance..

 

[49ER]

I'm almost positive it's high estrogen I've had it insanely high with no sides good thing I got blood work. That tren dose is not high even high with trt dose test I grew alot on 700 tren and was super horny.

Hard to say how much ai without bloodwork I think mine was a few hundred I don't recall I almost feel it was an error but I pounded adex 1mg ed for 2 weeks and I got tested again and was still slightly above normal e2 levels. He definitely needs to get bloodwork.

 

[tbonexl]

Yea I remember that 9er. Unfortunately its all a guess without bloodwork. An ai would be a good start...

 

[KingK]

i found a local place thats pretty cheap for blood work but he seems to think he has to wait for his insurance at a new job to kick in. i been back on about a month and need to get mine done also. maybe we can have a bloodwork "date" LMAO

 

[KingK]

ive always gone with the "rule of thumb" of .5 adex eod, this time i started doing .25 ed, but i dont take 1500mg a week of test, maybe 1000, so im thinking he may want to run more. like 49 said, start out heavy to kind of try to counteract but then keep taking a normal dosage. what you guys suggest for 1500mg a week of test? ive never had any real sides so im doing HIS research for him LOL..

 

[tbonexl]

Fuck I dunno. I've never went over a gram and I used Aromasin. Research chem too lol

 

[China_Wall]

Tren can cause "limp dick" etc... and 600mg is plenty enough to do that

 

[juced_porkchop]

Tren can cause "limp dick" etc... and 600mg is plenty enough to do that

I agree with this. but get bloods and look at E2 for sure!

 

[KingK]

ive always used Adex on and HCG/Nolv pct and ive never any issues. this dude took a bunch of shit for like a decade straight then went to jail for 2.5yrs and obviously had to come off, now back on about 6 months and having this problem and mad cause hes never had it happen. i told him our bodies can change and the stuff we have now is BEAST and CLEAN, not some underdosed internet bs. hes about to turn 40 soon too. im making his dumb ass get on AI and us go get blood work in like a month..

 

[KingK]

yeah ive heard of people complain about deca/tren dick, hes been on tren for 8 weeks (has taken it many times previously for lengthy runs) and this weekend started having the issues. ive always taken more test than deca or tren and never had that happen to me personally but i have read plenty of accounts, several of which people werent taking enough test though. if AI doesnt help im gonna suggest dropping the tren and pick up masteron or EQ again in its place for a while. but i will be pushing for blood work! i appreciate all the input guys, love this site..

 

[oldmusclemike]

High Estrogen Side Effects:

- Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues
- Crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time

He's on too high of Tren dose, a matter of fact all his compounds are too high as a stack. Not properly stacked, these kinds of mistakes can cause this. However the biggest reason I would say is NO AI and that's just plain ignorance as with no blood work. WTF this guy needs to educate himself. Look at all the side from high Estradiol.

 

[49ER]

I don't know why his tren dose is too high unless he's not experienced there's no reason to go limp on tren with test in your system. It has to be high estrogen I've used 700 tren ace with 200mg of test it is only when estrogen elevates then it becomes a problem

 

[tury694]

High Estrogen Side Effects:

- Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues
- Crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time

He's on too high of Tren dose, a matter of fact all his compounds are too high as a stack. Not properly stacked, these kinds of mistakes can cause this. However the biggest reason I would say is NO AI and that's just plain ignorance as with no blood work. WTF this guy needs to educate himself. Look at all the side from high Estradiol.

Hey Mike, about that last side, is "crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time" a scientific term?

 

[KingK]

some of the estro sides also are tren sides haha. fkn your head up, dick issues, insomnia (night sweats). he doesnt look to be holding much water, and the tren can make u crazy, the only issue he has complained about is the junk not working right. and yes hes a dummy, unfortunately

 

[tury694]

some of the estro sides also are tren sides haha. fkn your head up, dick issues, insomnia (night sweats). he doesnt look to be holding much water, and the tren can make u crazy, the only issue he has complained about is the junk not working right. and yes hes a dummy, unfortunately

Some people say that tren gives them something similar to deca dick. Most likely an estrogen side, but could be prolactin related also. Tell him to get some adex and prami. Blood work is a solid idea also

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Hey Mike, about that last side, is "crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time" a scientific term?

Yes, it's more commonly referred to as Post Manstral Stress

 

[49ER]

Ya now that I think about it just because it doesn't effect me that way does not mean someone else won't react different

 

[KingK]

i appreciate the insight. got him lining up some adex and if that doesnt help then dropping the tren for a while. do any of you run prami on cycle? ive never used it or known anyone to use it, something new for me to be researching :-D

 

[PrinceDianabol]

i appreciate the insight. got him lining up some adex and if that doesnt help then dropping the tren for a while. do any of you run prami on cycle? ive never used it or known anyone to use it, something new for me to be researching :-D

I'm on my first run with tren now... I have prami on the way, I need it.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Hey Mike, about that last side, is "crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time" a scientific term?

Sorry I was gone from the forum since yesterday. In answer to your question " a scientific term" the answer is not really except that since higher E within the female seems to effect emotions so why it maybe not have direct scientific links as does the other sides I have seen it in a few people over my career. I myself have experienced it somewhat but I suffer from manic - depressive psychosis, so If a person is prone to such emotional behavior it can go hand in hand. Again I have witnessed this side.

Females have this difference in hormones which can impact their entire psych. As in the females the high E detracts from the aggressive behavior.

I maybe should not include it as a defined side and thanks for caching that. I'll probably leave it out, but I have seen it......... The old guy on here!!