Dlove
Product of Test
Gunter is my favorite BBer. He is actually 6 3 305 7% BF on stage, but still doesn't take the Mr. O. It's ridiculous. Im 6 3 and I know how much harder it is for BBers to gain when taller.
If the pro BBs quit AS all together...
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Gunter is my favorite BBer. He is actually 6 3 305 7% BF on stage, but still doesn't take the Mr. O. It's ridiculous. Im 6 3 and I know how much harder it is for BBers to gain when taller.
csyflt
trenaholic
I hate to break anyones heart on here but not everyone can be a pro BB! I dont care how much you lift or how much AS you take. That is because of Genetics. The pros can probably run lots of AS with minimal sides. That goes back to what they were saying about the south. I am from a big family. My gandfather was 6'8" 350lbs and all his gandsons are over 6'2". My dad is like 5'9" and he is stronger now than I will ever be. And he has NEVER touched a weight in his life. Thats GENES bro!!!!
bigbodymingle
New member
wow youve missed 75 years of medical discovery. start with biology and work your way up to genetics, big buy
I've got to agree with the afro-american theory...They would have chosen the larger more muscular africans for slaves. hate to say it, but it's true. then they would have been breeding for the next 300 years with mostly other large african americans, and larger africans would have had been at an evolutionary advantage.
pickle bunny
The Ring Bearer
Genetics play a huge part in IFBB.
Just look at th epics of Cutler, Coleman
etc when they were 19. They are already huge
Just look at th epics of Cutler, Coleman
etc when they were 19. They are already huge
pickle bunny
The Ring Bearer
If all IFBB pros quit juice then it would just be.................................................Figure Class
oufinny
New member
Heck Arnie was a big guy when he was in his late teens, a lot is genetics and the rest is HARD training, diet and of course a lot of AAS (and money!).
B-BOI
Yes B'y !
That's because they were already on AAS when they were 19.
I was big at 19 but started AAS when I was 18, most thought I had good genetics little did they know I was injecting test. (eating alot, and lifting hard too)
Then at 24 I stopped working out and turned into a fat fuck (260lbs) wonder what happen to those great genetics.
u forreal bro? why u did u lay off the weights
B-BOI
Yes B'y !
Medical problems, non AAS related. Was off for four years, started back again in July '10.
Actually, Africa being the birthplace of humanity makes it the LEAST genetically diverse- our genes can be traced (via mitochondria) to a single mother in Africa and the oldest known (and genetically unique) form of human DNA still alive today is that of the Khoisan people in Southern Africa- as humans spread out they mixed more not less.
This guy seems to be the only one who knows what he is talking about when it comes to this ethnicity/physiology debate. It is a common misconception that the stronger slaves survived to interbreed to create more strong slaves:
1) There was intense interracial breeding going on in America from the very beginning - which would throw off the the gene pool if it did indeed operate on such a short chronological scale.
2) The type of work done on plantations required endurance much more than strength- a less muscular build would outlive a larger frame anyway- not survival of the strongest survival of the fittest.
Deeply ingrained genetic differences are the root cause. Our environment shapes our genetics over long periods of time- forces were/are present in Africa which caused people to have darker skin, less fat, more muscle (IN GENERAL) these genes were passed. As people moved out of Africa, the climate was colder, we saw less sunlight, our bodies adapted- slowed on producing whatever it is that kept our skin dark, hold a little more fat in the cold climate, etc.
It is more likely that a large man and large woman will produce a large child, but to suggest that African American's are more muscular than white Americans because of slavery simply overlooks the fact that black and white people have been interbreeding here since the discovery of America, basically- the white (weaker) genes would be nullifying the black (stronger) genes if it that could happen through just a handful of generations but genes are deeper set than that, it goes back further.
These are all generalizations of course- extremely jacked up and extremely skinny genes can come from all over the world and come in all different shades and colors.
G
GetToDaChoppa!
Guest
Well.. the one observation of African's I've noticed in the gym and outside the gym is that many of them have small calf muscle bellies.
As far as who can be stronger or bigger is utter shit. There's so much variation in all races that you can't label one being better for anything specifically. Some people have very favorable genes for bodybuilding....some don't.
As far as who can be stronger or bigger is utter shit. There's so much variation in all races that you can't label one being better for anything specifically. Some people have very favorable genes for bodybuilding....some don't.
hockeyfan2185
lifter
agreed but i think guys like jay and ronnie would have to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of their life with no cycles.
scotimusprime
Setting NEWB Gun to KILL
your point being?
malfeasance
New member
If you bred with the tallest woman you could find, your kids will be taller than if you bred with a short woman. If you then bred them with tall mates, your grandkids would be taller. You could continue this for several generations. That is selective breeding.
Slavemasters selectively bred generations of field hands in the new world. That is simply a fact. This means there will be a higher genetic frequency of the traits selected. Muscle size was one of the traits selected as desireable in a field hand.
I am not saying this was a moral thing to do, but it is what was done.
Of course, plenty of scrawny slaves bred, too, and there was interbreeding as well.
The pool from which slaves were taken in mainly west africa plays a large part in this as well.
Slavemasters selectively bred generations of field hands in the new world. That is simply a fact. This means there will be a higher genetic frequency of the traits selected. Muscle size was one of the traits selected as desireable in a field hand.
I am not saying this was a moral thing to do, but it is what was done.
Of course, plenty of scrawny slaves bred, too, and there was interbreeding as well.
The pool from which slaves were taken in mainly west africa plays a large part in this as well.
malfeasance
New member
Just used Google - wow! Well, he is in his fifties now.
rocko3927
Known SCAMMER
i seriously don't think arnold is 6-2. i am 6-1 met him in california 3 years ago and he seemed to be about 5-11. i also doubt pro bb stop gear altogether. wouldn't they have to be on trt. kevin levron is smaller but still looks like a beast. check out his you tube vids. his pro football camp challenge. and of course it all depends on how they live once they stop pro bb.
rocko3927
Known SCAMMER
come on bro...what pickel is saying, imo, is that these guys are different. there width, structual make up, overall composition, ability to grow, these guys are not like you and i. with or without aas. thats why you and i arn't pro bb. if you think genetics don't play a roll, it's not even worth the debate.....you got your head in the sand.
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